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I personally challenge anyone to give me PROOF, via theory(that means formulas and the whole works, including the thermodynamics and whatever else is needed; U2U it to me for review) that it is possible. Say I give it a month and tell you what: If it seems that any of you guys can PROVE it to me via theoretical principles that this is possible, I will shut up forever on this subject. However, the other way around, you guys accept that zero-point energy stuff is ridiculous and stop this very annoying semi-scientific discussion