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Heroes of the DNC

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posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:15 PM
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The only one I like and find genuine is AOC. But yes establishment dems are trying to claim her and act like long time supporters to recapture the real leftists and independents they lost during 2016 and before. That’s not her fault.

What’s disgusting is most of my friends/former classmates/colleagues/dnc that mocked and sidelined us “Bernie bros” as impractical and too far left during 2016, are now virtue signaling about AOC and relevant policies as if they themselves were my group during the 2016 election. I’m watching, I know who they are lol.

Honorable mention on this list and representing what I just said to the utmost, a former colleague:

www.ringelsteinformaine.com...

The only other one I don’t despise in this list is Beto. However, he’s over hyped.

a reply to: TheRedneck

edit on 24-1-2019 by Quetzalcoatl14 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I think it goes back farther than Trump. Don't forget when Obama was the fresh new first-term Senator on the scene. It worked with him and I think they're trying to find the next one. I doubt they'll get that insanely lucky again.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Bernie actually had a legitimate following, which now seems to have migrated to AOC. Same basic philosophy, and in many ways an admirable philosophy, but the trick is that it simply won't work in reality. Of course, Bernie exposed his own hypocrisy when he threw support behind Hillary after she stole his nomination. That's why although he remains popular, he doesn't stand a chance this time. Had he simply withdrawn and refused to support anyone, he would have a much better shot this time. He would have been a martyr. Few martyrs actually tend to support the one who martyred them after they are martyred.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: underpass61

That's a good point. Obama wound up hurting the average American, though, and I really don't think they'll get to try that one again. Maybe that's why the "racist" allegations flew so hard and fast during and after his administration... to try and show that he was discredited without discrediting his policies.

I don't think many people fell for that, though.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe if they put Madison Ivy up.....maybe. But just for three and a half minutes. Maybe even four.


Well, hey, the Republicans can put up Melania, she must have some pretty decent pictures our there


I think pictures of Melania when she was younger will put Stormy to shame. The Democrats have nothing on Trump.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: rickymouse

When I first heard about Phillips, my first thought was "How dare these self-righteous fools get in the face of an Indian?" I consider the Native Americans as a rightfully proud and noble people. Then, when he was exposed as a fraud, my thoughts switched 180 degrees to "This fool just disgraced his own people!" I went from completely sympathetic to indignant at light speed.

And of course, finding out about his military record didn't help either. I had two uncles who served in WWII, one as a medic on the front lines, and my Dad served in Korea. I have known many, many Vietnam vets over the years, one who was a POW for some time. Those folks were heroes. Phillips could have been a hero as well just for serving, but he blew that by trying to steal his valor from those who deserved it.

As for Stormy... I try not to judge. That industry is packed full of immoral, dishonest, money-grubbing perverts, but there are still quite a few who do not fit that mold. I even knew a few girls who worked their way through school as exotic dancers, then turned their back on it for the better life it gave them access to. I admire that! They took a very difficult occupation, and turned it into a life positive despite the many temptations to stay in it.

That said, there is still a well-deserved stigma... success stories are not the norm.

TheRedneck


One of the strippers I used to know put herself through nursing school and was going to be an RN within a few months after I talked to her last. That was many years ago. I tell you, she was a looker and really smart, she also was a very caring person and wanted to make it on her own. I never saw her again, she supposedly got a job at a hospital somewhere from what I heard. She was friends of a girl I knew many years ago.

My Dad was a POW and still had shrapnel in his arm until he died from being in WW11. He had some pretty big scars. I have his notes from when he was a POW that talk about his trip to the POW camp and his time there. A farmer hid him on his farm and nursed him back to health for a week till he got well enough to go back to the camp. We have letters from the farmer whom he contacted when I was about twelve and thanked him. They sent lots of letters back and forth. The guard overseeing my father on the farm looked the other way when the farmer wanted to help him and the farmer kept him in the barn when he was there. Not all the germans were bad, not all the people working and running the prison camps were heartless. My father continued to work on the farm going back and forth from the camp all the summer he was a POW. He liked to work and grew up on a farm so knew what he was doing.

My father was a Rifleman in the army, he was a POW and received a small amount of money because the shrapnel could not be taken out because of it's location in his arm. It caused a lot of nerve damage in his arm but he still farmed and worked a full time job anyway. He was considered a POW, he would say he was not a hero even though he got a purple heart. Back then Heros were people who did exceptionally brave and stupid things to help to keep others from getting hurt.

The news insinuating that this guy was a war hero is wrong. John McCain even said he did not consider himself a hero, just a POW.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 01:10 PM
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Yeah, I get the critique of sanders. I think he should have called out the electoral transgressions of the dnc and media.

Most people’s response to that is that he was being pragmatic to defeat trump. Lesser of two evils argument.

I get that some dsa policies are probably too left, such as free college for all etc. Some such as universal health care need to happen at some point.

a reply to: TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse


The news insinuating that this guy was a war hero is wrong. John McCain even said he did not consider himself a hero, just a POW.

A true hero need not define himself as a hero; a true hero will have others define him as such.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

What about Colin Kneepathetic - the hero & poster boy for 'victim'?




posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck


The MSM acts as public relations arms of the parties... they are not just looking for ratings any more; they are actively pushing political agendas. Most of the MSM is aligned with the DNC, while Fox seems to be aligned with the GOP. None of them are truly "pro-Trump," although Fox comes closer. So when you say these are media created entities, I see it as the same as politically created entities.


Yea, I would say that Fox comes really really close to supporting Trump if not guiding him. And yes, I see that the liberals like to go to the rest of the more liberal outlets for interviews and such. Everyone is looking to strengthen their popularity with their base. Preaching to their own choirs.

Seems to me though that the media battle, though it can be seen as liberal vrs conservative is still a status quo driven machine. And what more than anything else establishes that status quo. It is what can cause the consumer to be persuaded to purchase. This goes for merchandise, as it always has and now, which it also always has, just not to the degree it does now, is celebrity culture. It's been building for over half a century. Too large a portion of the voting public cannot be bothered with the complexities of issues and policies. They can take in only a certain amount of sound bites at at time and that means that the voting public is extremely shallow.

I think we agree that media created entities and political created entities are the same now. It is a cart before the horse thing. Does celebrity come from political positions or do political positions come from celebrity seeking a wider base of economic income. I see Avinatti as the second. He wanted to increase the exposure of his brand and exploited his position trying to turn his 15 minutes into 30. I see Trump as the same thing. He wanted to turn his 30 minutes into a couple of months in order to widened his brand and was presented by those who bought into his sales pitch with at least 4 years.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: underpass61

That's a good point. Obama wound up hurting the average American, though, and I really don't think they'll get to try that one again. Maybe that's why the "racist" allegations flew so hard and fast during and after his administration... to try and show that he was discredited without discrediting his policies.

I don't think many people fell for that, though.

TheRedneck


While true the left sure doesn't see it that way. According to them Trump is just taking credit for everything Obama set in motion. That is, until things turn bad anyway.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

AH! I knew I had probably forgotten someone. The man who turned me off to NFL football!

Strangely enough, I was just speaking with a friend about how I lost all interest in the NFL... football used to be my recluse from politics and debate. Now it's just another debate topic, so all I watch any more is NCAA.

ROOOOOOooooooll TIDE!

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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You forgot Spartacus!




posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: rickymouse

When I first heard about Phillips, my first thought was "How dare these self-righteous fools get in the face of an Indian?" I consider the Native Americans as a rightfully proud and noble people. Then, when he was exposed as a fraud, my thoughts switched 180 degrees to "This fool just disgraced his own people!" I went from completely sympathetic to indignant at light speed.

And of course, finding out about his military record didn't help either. I had two uncles who served in WWII, one as a medic on the front lines, and my Dad served in Korea. I have known many, many Vietnam vets over the years, one who was a POW for some time. Those folks were heroes. Phillips could have been a hero as well just for serving, but he blew that by trying to steal his valor from those who deserved it.

As for Stormy... I try not to judge. That industry is packed full of immoral, dishonest, money-grubbing perverts, but there are still quite a few who do not fit that mold. I even knew a few girls who worked their way through school as exotic dancers, then turned their back on it for the better life it gave them access to. I admire that! They took a very difficult occupation, and turned it into a life positive despite the many temptations to stay in it.

That said, there is still a well-deserved stigma... success stories are not the norm.

TheRedneck


They are not any more noble or proud than any other people. That is a leftist myth.



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 12:03 AM
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Could we add Al Franken to this list?

Oh, and there is the Broward County gang,
the sheriff, the elections supervisor?




posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:19 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I watch Fox a lot these days, and believe it or not, they do not give Trump a pass on everything. Ann Coulter is throwing a hissy fit over supposed amnesty for DACA in the latest attempt at negotiation, and Fox gives her a voice. They do have Hannity, who is a solid Trump supporter and personal friend, but I take the pundit shows with several tons of salt.

I simply cannot watch CNN any more. The disconnect from reality is just too much. They seemed OK before the 2016 elections, but then something seemed to change. They became almost rabid in their hatred. I mean, really? Two scoops of ice cream is the best they can come up with? Since when is that newsworthy?


Seems to me though that the media battle, though it can be seen as liberal vrs conservative is still a status quo driven machine.

I think that depends on how one defines 'liberal' and 'conservative.' Those terms change with time, and seem to change pretty fast lately. I'd bet most on this site consider me a conservative, but at one time I was considered a liberal. My positions have not changed. The definitions have.

'Liberal' and 'conservative' also do not seem to really apply to political parties. I have noticed that the GOP particularly tends to contain both conservative and moderate members, with precious few devoted to popularism. Likewise for the DNC. Yet Trump is more of a popularist than he is anything.


And what more than anything else establishes that status quo. It is what can cause the consumer to be persuaded to purchase. This goes for merchandise, as it always has and now, which it also always has, just not to the degree it does now, is celebrity culture. It's been building for over half a century. Too large a portion of the voting public cannot be bothered with the complexities of issues and policies. They can take in only a certain amount of sound bites at at time and that means that the voting public is extremely shallow.

That is the root problem. People cannot take time to actually understand the issues.

Instead, people tend to tune in that moving picture screen and let someone else do their thinking for them. In a way, that could be seen as the definition of "celebrity": the ability to think for a large group of people.

Hmmm... I just made myself think...


I think we agree that media created entities and political created entities are the same now. It is a cart before the horse thing. Does celebrity come from political positions or do political positions come from celebrity seeking a wider base of economic income.

I'd say both.

If, as I mentioned above, celebrity is the ability to think for large groups of people, then what metric do people use to decide who thinks for them? Obviously, some use political party lines, which means celebrity comes form political positions, but some also choose party based on what celebrities think. That is political policies coming from celebrity. I think we have now reached a point where things are building on themselves... a political position can be determined by celebrity, which is then used to change other political positions, which then equates to celebrity status for politicians, which is then used to advance new political positions, ad infinitum. It is a vicious spiral, and where one enters the spiral seems less important that the direction the spiral goes.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: Carcharadon


They are not any more noble or proud than any other people. That is a leftist myth.

I disagree.

While people are people, and all groups will contain bad elements, I consider the basic moralities of the Native American tribes in general to be exemplary. They respect their ancestry, their heritage, and their elders. They care for everyone in the tribe, with the exceptions of those who endanger the tribe through their actions. They respect nature and tended to live in an ecologically sustainable manner (as opposed to the rest of us, who tend to claim ecological sustainability while doing the opposite).

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 12:11 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

They're attempting to astroturf the genuine feel that got trump elected. It's really quite comical. Trump got elected because he was trump. Not because he was a populist or a republican or white. He got elected because:
A) Everyone knew who he was
B) He didn't hide from who he was, he embraced it
C) He took popular positions on big ticket issues
D) He had the goods to back up the reputation



posted on Jan, 28 2019 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Cortez seems like a genuine person, but I said the same about bernie before the election. As much as I disagreed with bernie I always respected that he stuck to his guns (he was an independent and vocal socialist). But then the election happened, he suddenly had three houses and dropped out of the rigged race with nary a peep. I mean, that's what socialists do in socialist countries, so I should have seen it coming, but I didn't.

Cortez just seems like a moron. Genuine, sure, but a lot of vacancy behind the eyes. Typical millennial, no understanding of what he opinions actually do, just a lot of understanding that she is right, even if she's not.




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