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Query: If Trump Commits Troops to Venezuela Will You Support Him?

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posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




The Venezuelans should be happy to sacrifice civilians at the alter of cheap transportation for us.


With crude oil being traded in US $'s apart from the billionaires it has made, ordinary Americans should've been enjoying free petrol since the 70's. And yet trillions in debt. It does not compute.




posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

For me it would depend on the mission.
If it was to establish a puppet government under US control then no.

If it was to distribute food and medical care to a population that already ate the zoo animals, then I might be on board.

The second question would be "what's the exit strategy?"

And why wouldn't this be a United nations duty?
This is why they exist in the first place.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


Ummm...why on earth would President Trump commit troops to Venezuela...?

I could maybe see some air support and marine recon protecting Americans on their way out...Other than that no...no occupationary forces...

If troops do go in...it will be Colombians and Brazilians...no need for our sons and daughters...those two countries are damned tired of what’s been happening just north and east of them...

They would absolutely love for Maduro and his socialist gulag to be gone...I think they’ll get their wish soon...







YouSir
edit on 24-1-2019 by YouSir because: Clarification dictated...



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Who would we be fighting? The Venezuela Military? I doubt that since they will be the ones who remove Maduro.

The OAS would probably be the organization that is called upon to provide peacekeeping.

We would provide support for the new government of Venezuela but given US history in Central and South America, I seriously doubt US troops would be used. We would provide logistics, ect for OAS members.

Venezuela is a mess and they will need help to get their country back to a semblance of normal.

One of this days "real socialism" will get it right somewhere, LOL. 0 for 17 so far, but I'm sure the Progressives in the US will get it right.

edit on 24-1-2019 by pavil because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: CriticalStinker




The Venezuelans should be happy to sacrifice civilians at the alter of cheap transportation for us.


With crude oil being traded in US $'s apart from the billionaires it has made, ordinary Americans should've been enjoying free petrol since the 70's. And yet trillions in debt. It does not compute.



Ummm...remember...Muammar Gaddafi tried that in Libya...where every citizen was payed royalties on their oil sales...

Just look how that turned out...





YouSir



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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No, and it will not even be necessary. Venezuela is in such a mess all one needs to do is pull one string and the whole sweater will unravel.

Sad thing is that the man that Trump endorsed is also socialist. Still, much better than the Chavista's. At least they don't think state run everything is the answer.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: FrostyFlakes


But to answer OP: yes, will support Trump. Tho he may lose some other supporters for it.


Yea, who cares about campaign promises?

Reduction of war is weak, flip flopping makes me think we're on a beach and gets me thirsty for a Corona.


I appreciate your posts a lot. Even if I don't necessarily agree, I think you bring well thought out topics and logic to the table. You are on fire today with your posts though. I'm over here giggling.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: YouSir



Ummm...why on earth would President Trump commit troops to Venezuela...?


There is a chance this may happen, Trump recognized Guiado as president, Maduro broke diplomatic relations over this and gave 72 hours for all US personal to leave the country, as US recognize the other guy as president Maduros order is void and the state department already said the staff will remain in Venezuela.

If Maduro tries to enter the embassy to remove the personal this would constitute casus belli and USA would have the right to invade.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: headorheart


Thank ya!


If you can't beat the group thought..... Make fun of it haha.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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I agree with Trump (and many other world leaders) that Maduro is no longer the legitimate leader of Venezuela. But sending in troops? Hell no.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Indigent


If Maduro tries to enter the embassy to remove the personal this would constitute casus belli and USA would have the right to invade.


Haha, since when have we needed the right to invade?



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.


Well then the last thing they need is us there..... Our track record isn't so hot since WWII (with the exception of the Gulf War).



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Always, otherwise why do you think Bush invented the Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the causus belli in that case was that Iraq broke the terms of cease fire of the gulf war having those weapons.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.


Well then the last thing they need is us there..... Our track record isn't so hot since WWII (with the exception of the Gulf War).


Time to turn this franchise around, start a winning tradition.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.


Well then the last thing they need is us there..... Our track record isn't so hot since WWII (with the exception of the Gulf War).


Time to turn this franchise around, start a winning tradition.


Sometimes it's better to take the bench after a few strike outs.

Maybe we have a few decades of letting people handle their own affairs.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.


Well then the last thing they need is us there..... Our track record isn't so hot since WWII (with the exception of the Gulf War).


Time to turn this franchise around, start a winning tradition.


Sometimes it's better to take the bench after a few strike outs.

Maybe we have a few decades of letting people handle their own affairs.


Would you say the same of a man beating a woman? Or would you step in?



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Yes. The people need to be liberated.


Well then the last thing they need is us there..... Our track record isn't so hot since WWII (with the exception of the Gulf War).


Time to turn this franchise around, start a winning tradition.


Sometimes it's better to take the bench after a few strike outs.

Maybe we have a few decades of letting people handle their own affairs.


Would you say the same of a man beating a woman? Or would you step in?


Hmmmm, I'd step in.... But that decision probably wouldn't result in the death of a quarter of a million civilians like our Middle East efforts post 9/11. In your defense, those people are in fact free now, free from this earth.

But hey, when you fall off the war horse, just get back on and try again, what's the worse that could happen, ammirite?
edit on 24-1-2019 by CriticalStinker because: My stat on casualties was wrong, corrected for accuracy.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
We sit at a precipice. Segments of the Venezuelan population have expressed doubts toward the recent Presidential election. This has raised the ire of certain countries, the US included. This is a country that the Trump administration has been eyeing for awhile now.

I think we all know that it is rich in oil. What most don't know is that they told the IMF to f**k off in 2007.

I will admit that things have been bad in Venezuela for awhile now. While most on this site will claim it's because of their socialist policies; I would argue it's because they're more of a dictatorship now... and the backlash they have felt from leaving the IMF.

So, as the title of this thread asks, if Trump puts troops in Venezuela will you support the decision?


Walk away. Let it implode. Go in afterward and pick up the pieces.

Just send a carrier group to watch, and crank up the popcorn machine. Set a 100 mile buffer, anything coming closer is challenged.

Fred..



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 10:39 AM
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if Trump puts troops in Venezuela will you support the decision?


Trump is averse to needless war like most Americans.

If he suddenly became pro-war while the socialist regime of VZ collapses under its own stupidity, I would not support it.

Neither would most Americans. He would also lose the election in 2020.




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