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Whats going on with the so called Disclosure from various countries?

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posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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For the past 20 years or maybe more theres a push for disclosure and indeed usa aside we ve seen many countries supposedly disclosing top secret documents on the ufo phenomenon.

Namely Canada,France,Denmark and many more.But if someone takes the time to check these documents he will find only letters from citizens who say they saw weird lights and sighting files eg x soldier saw y object at z place.


This imo is not disclosure,If anything it helps muddling more the murky depths of ufology.

I believe there is a true "project blue book" being run underground and the so called disclosure of said files is just the outer layer of the whole business.Having "disclosed" these files the goverments can go about their business on this matter having clean hands since they "disclosed" everything they have


What are your thoughts on this?Has anyone found any interesting file in all these papers?




posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: IMSAM

I haven't seen the papers or files, but I've been seeing lots of UFO shows premiering on tv, like Project Blue Book, which is very entertaining so far.

I remember Clinton telling us she'd open up to the public, all the top secret UFO files if she was elected. I've seen threads on here about the government getting more lax because they're about to be letting the public know about aliens so that we won't be shocked when they reveal themselves. Trump is starting a Space Force. And just last night, I saw some headlines of Fox that said some UFO files are going to be declassified, at least that's what I think I saw.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: IMSAM

I don't really believe there is much disclosure happening, to be honest.

There probably is a lot of both witness testimony, logs, sensor readouts and footage being held back.

Either that or many, many witnesses are lying.

What this material would prove to contain, however, is anybodys guess.

As is why it is being held back in the first place.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 09:16 AM
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The problem is that we do not know what full disclosure means.
Because we would not know it even if we got it.

If you know someone have many secrets, and he reveal some of them.
How would you know he have told all of them, and why should you believe him.. he have been keeping secrets from you and he have told you for along time he had none .



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 09:18 AM
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Maybe they want to make sure our UFO tech is "ufo" quality first. Then disclose them, but it wont be them, it will be US. They then show up and tell us what to do, we listen because we think they are "aliens" who know better.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 09:26 AM
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Btw forgot to write in the op about the lack of any photos from gun cameras,infrareds etc.


Assuming that military technology is at least conservatively 10 years ahead of the public sector i am pretty confident that some good quality photos and or footage exist out there.

seeing as neither is in those files we can assume that

a.they(photos-vids) dont exist which i find higly unlikely
b.they are still classified which is weird since they supposedly disclose files
c.Military tech is really bad and no footage exists or photos for that matter(0% probability)
d. theres,and the most probable scenario in my opinion,an underground research going that still has everything clamped down



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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A small selection of humans are the ones that decide if the public can handle it.

The decision was made to continue secrecy, as of 2016.

No further information at the moment, on that topic.

Amongst the group, there was only one human staunchly against continued secrecy, and he was escorted out of the meeting.

All of this is information that was told to me, by Johnny from down the road.

Just between us and Hawaii, an accidental mass disclosure will probably happen, eventually.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: Archivalist
A small selection of humans are the ones that decide if the public can handle it.
The decision was made to continue secrecy, as of 2016.
No further information at the moment, on that topic.
Amongst the group, there was only one human staunchly against continued secrecy, and he was escorted out of the meeting.
All of this is information that was told to me, by Johnny from down the road.
Just between us and Hawaii, an accidental mass disclosure will probably happen, eventually.

Again...pics or it didn't happen. Which is to say, 'Please cite your sources'.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

It's heresay as it lay.

It shall be lain to rest, as it may.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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It's a response to pubilc pressure. They were stalked long enough and had to release something.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
I believe there is a true "project blue book" being run underground and the so called disclosure of said files is just the outer layer of the whole business.Having "disclosed" these files the goverments can go about their business on this matter having clean hands since they "disclosed" everything they have


Not sure if your siting the New TV show that is based off of the actual 1947-1969 collection of actual reports.
gone underground..nope. Top Secret..yep.

Why there will be No Disclosure to the UFO/Alien phenomenon...

The simple answer:
There is No good reason to Disclose it to the public.

Imagine you are the guy's in charge.
your Con list is going to be far longer
than your Pro list.

So why do it.
edit on 1/23/2019 by spoonbender because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 12:06 PM
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Lots of countries have "released their files." Generally speaking these files have not "disclosed" anything particularly earth-shattering. Lots of lights in the sky and anecdotal accounts. Proponents of Disclosure such as Stephen Bassett are not satisfied with that. To them "Disclosure" means a vast and massive government cover up of a giant conspiracy withholding the knowledge of alien visitation on Earth and government cooperation and collusion with these visitors.

Nothing else will do because these people think they know a priori what the answer is. They just want the government to admit to it. Unless the government fesses up in the manner that the Disclosure people desire, Disclosure has not happened.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
For the past 20 years or maybe more theres a push for disclosure and indeed usa aside we ve seen many countries supposedly disclosing top secret documents on the ufo phenomenon.

Namely Canada,France,Denmark and many more.But if someone takes the time to check these documents he will find only letters from citizens who say they saw weird lights and sighting files eg x soldier saw y object at z place.


This imo is not disclosure,If anything it helps muddling more the murky depths of ufology.

I believe there is a true "project blue book" being run underground and the so called disclosure of said files is just the outer layer of the whole business.Having "disclosed" these files the goverments can go about their business on this matter having clean hands since they "disclosed" everything they have


What are your thoughts on this?Has anyone found any interesting file in all these papers?


There will never be a disclosure...ever. No one person or group speaks for or is accepted by the entire world...and besides that.

We've had so much evidence that we totally ignore....even w announcements by groups of researchers and countries like Britain, Canada and others.

There will never be a big "disclosure". We have the evidence, have heard the announcements...and the world as a whole ignores it.

They are here, have always been here, and keep coming and going. Still...the world in total ignores it all...
edit on 23-1-2019 by mysterioustranger because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 12:20 AM
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I don't understand why they go through so much trouble to conceal it, unless these beings are evil beings (other-dimensional entities, what we call 'demons.') That would make them look horrible. If it's not that, and they are peaceful or just bizarre, it doesn't make sense to me that they would go through so much trouble. Denying it is one thing, but the lengths they seem to go to is another.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 09:27 AM
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It is possible some think tanks gave the opinion that societies are not ready,now unless every think tank of every country gave similar opinions i dont know.Unless what they want to disclose is really something upsetting which i find highly unlikely.

here is a link to an estimation from a said think tank,written in december 1960

www.brookings.edu... pace-program-in-1960/



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: IMSAM

I'm really not convinced that there is anything to disclose . There's just to many variables as to why they wouldn't,haven't or could visit us . If anything is Unknown it would come from Earth and have been along side us the whole time .
edit on 1/24/2019 by Gargoyle91 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2019 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: IMSAM

I don’t think disclosure is what people think it will be. No ufo in White House lawn for example. But rather a slow steady drip feed. My view first they will find some single cell life within our home system to show life is out there. None threating but important



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:16 AM
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a reply to: ConspiracyMysteries




I would accept the steady drip disclosure had it not been for the 70 years that passed,Since Kenneths first sighting we got thousands of movies books lectures you name it.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 03:44 PM
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As far as I am concerned the people keeping the lid on have something to hide because their primary goal is nefarious and not peaceful.

I think that it is stupid that the people who have all of the power keep on with the lies but as we all know they cant hide everything and the truth is out there it's just the human race is not ready for it IMO. The problem is we are still bound to primitive ideologies like religion greed and war etc. Technologically we can progress but as spiritual beings we are stuck in the dark ages. I imagine ET's must be terrified of our brand of rotten and do not want us exporting it around the cosmos, cant say I blame them. The system is afraid that the affect of the truth on the public will be detrimental, I think that has some truth to it. Look at how some people behave because they don't follow a certain book or were converted etc.

I also believe that there are some people who are ready but there are those who just would not accept it so we are stuck with the lies, smoke screens and all of the fakers for the foreseeable.



posted on Jan, 26 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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Whats going on with the so called Disclosure from various countries?

That is a question I had pondered myself for some time now.. To answer that I had to ask myself why no other so called disclosing nation like France, Brazil, England and ...all the others do not show us the real hot stuff. There are stories from jetfighter pilots who were scrambled to intercept some radar signal entering airspace and later say they saw an ufo. I refuse to believe that there is no infocus, up-close and in color footage of some wonderful real life ufo made by the gun-camera of a jetfighter. All we always get see is recordings of which we need to fill in the spaces with our own imagination.... doesn't matter what country it is from.

What is going on here..

The only conclusion I have is that there is an agreement among most countries in the world about what to show the people of the world when it comes to ufoos and (space)aliens. An agreement simular like these countries made with Antartica. No matter if nations are about to go at war with eachother this agreement does seem to hold. This reminds me of the conspiracy I once heared that the world is governed by a few people and what we see about international politics is all theatre. In reality they are all friends..but money needs to be made and lies are the best tools to do so.

Maybe we are not given disclosure because tptb are afraid most people are not ready for it yet and full disclosure will trigger a world economy collaps. Maybe they will not give disclosure because it will cause a legal battlefield...thinking laws trespassed by militairy and politiciasns in order to keep the secret and tax money spent which did only benefit those enlightened. The problem they have is that there are a lot of people becoming ready and awake and pushing for disclosure....using the internet. All tptb can do is throw them a bone once in a while to keep them hopeful and at peace.

That is why I do not think we will ever receive real solid unconditional disclosure from a government. Maybe they will only give it when forced...maybe when an ufo will crash into time square, new york. Or when ET will disclose themselves to the world.






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