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Macron and Merkel are trying to safeguard Europe, not dominate it

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posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 10:05 PM
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MSM gets more Ridicules by Defending Macron and Merkel
and their new agenda.

Macron and Merkel are trying to safeguard Europe, not dominate it





It istempting to indulge in some typical British lip-curling over the grand-sounding Treaty of Franco-German Cooperation and Integration signed on Tuesday by Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron in Aachen (Aix-la-Chapelle in French), capital of Charlemagne’s lost but not forgotten ninth-century European empire.

The pact, reaffirming the 1963 Élysée treaty that set the two countries on the path to post-war reconciliation, is intended to reassert the centrality of the Franco-German partnership in a splintering Europe beset by resurgent nationalism, rightwing populism and Brexit. Cynics will say it is also an attempt to reassert the fading relevance of Merkel and Macron.

Yet it’s not necessary to be an English Eurosceptic to have serious doubts about this project. Macron was accused of “high treason” this week by the French right for supposedly secretly planning to surrender Alsace and Lorraine. Marine Le Pen, the leader of National Rally (formerly the National





Such claims are nonsense. So, too, is the idea put about by Eurosceptic media in Britain that Paris and Berlin are conspiring to seize full control of the EU and impose a new, shared hegemony at the expense of smaller states. The real problem with the new treaty is that it is mostly a bland, unambitious fudge.






Last, Macron and Merkel are doing what any British leader worth their salt should instinctively be doing too: namely reinforcing Europe’s defences against the depredations, current and future, of a US that is increasingly intent on exploiting the privileges conferred by global leadership while rejecting the accompanying responsibilities; and against the rise of a ruthless new superpower, China, whose authoritarian, anti-democratic practices fundamentally challenge European values of independence, freedom of action and individual rights.





Thank goodness Macron and Merkel, for all their faults and weaknesses, can still see the bigger picture. These days, for the most part, Britain’s small-minded leaders cannot see beyond their rather stuck-up noses.




posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Im just going to add a rousing: LoL



posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 10:09 PM
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According to the the guardian.
It is necessary and inevitable that Britain must lose its sovereignty and become part of the EU. While the Author ignores the issues that both Merkel and Macron are facing in their own countries.
The Mainstream News Media are hellbent on defending Merkel and Macron their preferred leftist who apparent have common sense? what a load of nonsense.



edit on 22-1-2019 by AtlasHawk because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 10:33 PM
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Sounds like propaganda to me.



posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 10:36 PM
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If Macron isn't careful, he's going to find himself hanging from a short rope tied to a tall lamppost.
The French people are fed up with the immigration problem and the local economy.

Macron should never have won the election, he's the 'deep states' last global hope at the moment, if he goes, they go!



posted on Jan, 22 2019 @ 11:42 PM
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MASS-importation of islam = ‘safeguarding Europe’ (in the tiny minds of fascist leftists)



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

The EU has now Become an Enemy of the American People . Politics aside , this does not Bode well for Western Civilization .
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posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Its only matter of time before a civil war in Europe happens.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 01:58 AM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Its only matter of time before a civil war in Europe happens.



Europe’s ‘rich north’ should be worried. Currently, both Angela Merkel and Emanuel Macron are under fire and struggling for legitimacy in the face of massive public opposition to what their electorate believe are failing policies on immigration and unsustainable runaway taxation by the state in the face of a rising cost of living.

This past week, France’s Yellow Vest Movement has intensified well beyond what was seen over Christmas, as the government braces itself for a new round of unrest this weekend.

Many EU member states are facing similar situations, based on similar underlying structural problems. Millions of citizens throughout Europe are now beginning to realize there are no economic prospects for moving forward, but more crucially – they’re now realizing to what extent they have lost their national sovereignty in deference to Brussels.


21stcenturywire.com...



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 02:49 AM
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With the UK leaving the EU (if it actually happens) the French and Germans will have no significant blocker against the move to create an EU state. The first move for this is to more closely unify France and Germany, because out of that will come the mechanics of closer EU unification e.g the economies of the euro, finance et al. We can already see this in the move towards combining military programmes and certain key industries.

All going to be done without any clear mandate from the German and French people, or wider regard for the views of other EU members. Who cares about them. It's in the hands of the EU elite and they are more interested in ideology, rather than public opinion, or consultation.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Its only matter of time before a civil war in Europe happens.

Yes, and they'll come to us crying and asking us to get in the middle again.
edit on 23-1-2019 by Trueman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 03:24 AM
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Anyway, just to think of the OP in a different way.

For France and Germany to safeguard the Europe they want they will have to dominate it.
edit on 23/1/2019 by paraphi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 03:53 AM
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It's an opinion piece by a pro Merkel journalist , everybody's entitled to their opinion.

Tisdall has criticised Britain's close ties with Saudi Arabia and British involvement in the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen. In 2018, he wrote that "the UK-Saudi alliance is pernicious, encouraging the worst in both sides, and deeply corrosive of “our values”. May’s main focus is not on the unnumbered Yemeni civilians who continue to die as a result of the Saudi-led, British-backed bombing campaign.
Tisdall commends Angela Merkel's "brave, open-door migration policy"
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 03:59 AM
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And according to the MSM the 'Gilet Jaunes' are essentially a terrorist organization backed by social conservatives to justify further authoritarianism. When the conspiracy theories are coming out both ends, you can be rest assured there is a 99.9% chance that no matter the source's political lean, it's 100% bull#.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 04:03 AM
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Europeans do not meet the necessary prerequisites to be European citizens
Muslims do.
Welcome to the New World



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 04:36 AM
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just about the only thing right in that long OP is that China is a danger to western (not just European), values of independence, freedom of action and individual rights. although if you are being honest about things Macron, Merkel and the like (such as the democrats in the US and liberals/NDP in Canada) are equal dangers to those western values.

the US (under Trump, and lets face it, it is only because of Trump that the author feels this way, if Hillary had won, he would be singing a different tune, since she like Obama before her would have been a willing partner), is only an enemy of people like Merkel and Marcon and their ilk, who want to destroy those western values. not to Europe and the European people. in reality Marcon and Merkel are really upset over the UK leaving the EU, because they along with the US (as it is now under Trump), would likely interfere with their bid to become a (if not THE) superpower so they can abuse the position and reclaim all those lost colonies and more. to exploit the world for their benefit. something that would have been much, much easier if they had both the UK and the US on board with them in their efforts. Trump wisely bailing on the Paris climate farce was a big blow to their plans, since the US was supposed to be the major bankroller in at least that part of their plans.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 04:41 AM
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I don't think France wants to destroy Western values. France just wants Western values to be French.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 05:04 AM
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So was Hitler, but it didn't make it right.

Macron and Merkel may in their own minds, be trying to save Europe. In reality, they're tearing it apart.



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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MSM gets more Ridicules by Defending Macron and Merkel and their new agenda.



Agreed .

Perhaps Macron is having trouble with credibility by supporting the EU so openly but without En Marche having any affiliation with a Europarty like the EPP . (*Corrects self from previous bad reporting)

The discredited ex French leaders the Republicans were EPP affiliates , so En Marche Macron would look slightly corrupt if they also joined . But it doesn't stop them all having the same intent ,and giving over to the same European ideals / policymakers .

So they come up with a Franco-German pact instead . Germans involved in French security etc . Such a move facilitates Macron's France and Europe's EPP to have a joined up approach covering the central region .



posted on Jan, 23 2019 @ 08:32 AM
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The world is on fire, and the powers that be, are desperate to hide it from ignorant masses.

Ignorant masses being the 🐑 ple



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