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A poor immigrant who came to America

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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Lumenari

Granted no country should be over-run with immigrants who are there to leech of a society or cause trouble ,But if they had money and a clean record why not let them in to bring some work and much needed revenue


That is the way legal immigrants come to the United States. I have seen no one on ATS against legal immigration. Only people trying to obfuscate the truth by blurring the line between legal and illegal immigrants.




posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: stonerwilliam

Why not take more immigrants with cash and fix the place up build some new cities and a rail network like the Chinese have done


I have no clue to what you just said...lol BUT the Chinese do not have immigrants...they go into other countries and rape pillage and plunder them economically. They make a few at the top in those countries rich to let them ravage the lands and people. They are also producing 5x more CO2 then the rest of the world combined and the same with plastics in our ocean, not to mention they have about 50 cities in the top 100 most polluted in the world.

If you are talking about what the Chinese did in building our railroads...well they did it as slave labor, and the reason they did not use actual African American slaves was it was too dangerous to use people of value...geez, not sure if that would fly today...

So if your question is be like the Chinese, I think not...



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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

If they break in chuck them out - simple illegal is illegal

But if they have skills /money and are of good standing give a 5 year pass to see how they do over that course of time , a few stories have come up where people have been in the UK working and living quiet with good jobs and been or are going to be kicked out because of a stupid broke system



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

Why not take more immigrants with cash and fix the place up build some new cities and a rail network like the Chinese have done


I have no clue to what you just said...lol BUT the Chinese do not have immigrants...they go into other countries and rape pillage and plunder them economically. They make a few at the top in those countries rich to let them ravage the lands and people. They are also producing 5x more CO2 then the rest of the world combined and the same with plastics in our ocean, not to mention they have about 50 cities in the top 100 most polluted in the world.

If you are talking about what the Chinese did in building our railroads...well they did it as slave labor, and the reason they did not use slaves was it was too dangerous to use people of value...geez, not sure if that would fly today...

So if your question is be like the Chinese, I think not...



They only copy what us Brits and Americans did or are doing to other countries for their resources , We need to get with the programme and catch them up quick



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: stonerwilliam
Not so long ago one poor immigrant who ventured to Americas shores looking for a better life and he ended up digging ditches for 2 years on $ 2 A DAY
and back then 9 million poured into America for this better life and a further 3 million up to 1943 this poor ditch digger was named Nicola Tesla .



So maybe we should be asking immigrants what they could contribute to a country rather than throw the baby out with the bath water in most cases , It is not like America is full up there are 10 x as many people per square mile in the UK than America and those run down cities with empty areas would soon look new again and why not copy Chinas blueprint and build like hell with all the new legal folk who have the money to come to America .

But they would have to pay taxes for 5 years before they can make a claim for benefits have a clean record of crime and be educated so as not to add to the 45 % of Americans who pay no taxes

The statue of liberty is there for a reason i sometimes quote , America was the land of hope now with his wall talk it will not be long until the words PAPERS PLEASE are said in the streets again like in Germany of WW2




If we should let tens of millions of illiterate, unemployable immigrants that don't speak English in because one of them MIGHT be Nikolai Tesla then I propose an immediate ban on abortion in the off chance that one of those non-aborted babies MIGHT be Tesla.

Added bonus: without selfish women murdering babies we would have ZERO need for 3rd world immigrants.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: CanadianMason

This thread will make you wonder www.abovetopsecret.com...




StonerW, ask yourself, why was the office that took all of his notes and property called, 'The Office of Alien Property'?

Is it because Tesla was, in fact, an alien?



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam

Cuz the Chinese is the ENEMY.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: CanadianMason

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: CanadianMason

This thread will make you wonder www.abovetopsecret.com...




StonerW, ask yourself, why was the office that took all of his notes and property called, 'The Office of Alien Property'?

Is it because Tesla was, in fact, an alien?

From what i have gleamed on the internet , He was a naturalized citizen by his death Citizenship Austrian (1856–1891)
American (1891–1943)

On 30 July 1891, aged 35, Tesla became a naturalized citizen of the United States.[96][97] In the same year, he patented his Tesla coil.[98]

This question of why the Feds took his papers has long been discussed in C/T circles ,But one only has to know how many patients are classified per year on official secrets and security


en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: CanadianMason
a reply to: stonerwilliam

Cuz the Chinese is the ENEMY.



And they have long memories and know Sun Zou by heart , They play chess as the long game ,take your Gold for plastic crap all while smiling



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam




...one only has to know how many patients are classified per year on official secrets and security


I will assume you meant to say 'patents' as opposed to "patients".

Q 1: How many patents are classified per year?

Q 2: What do you mean by "official secrets and security"?

Please don't reply unless you can provide me with academic source material.

I'll go easy on you: Chicago Style or MLA or APA.



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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam

Wikipedia is unacceptable in academia.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: CanadianMason

This is one of many you could dig up www.bloomberg.com...



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam

We in the West play the long game, too. We tried to be friends with China. It didn't work.

They don't want to play fair ball.

Canada, at least, will not tolerate bullying.

Except for one thing.

Get rid of panzy ass Trudeau.

We need a strong leader who can stand up to China.

I know Canadians, when push comes to shove, we will fight.

We are Strong and Free, and will remain so.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Aallanon

went to a liberal indoctrination center (colledge) for free


I'm sure Tesla could actually spell college too.


In 6 languages



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam

Nope. Still unacceptable. Bloomberg News "slightly favours the Left".

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Media, Left or Right, along any of the spectrum, is not academic.

Find some peer-reviewed sources to support your thesis, then get back to me.
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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: stonerwilliam

Did he come here illegally?


Most Americans did not come here legally according to Native Americans.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: CanadianMason

The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 (Pub.L. 82–256, 66 Stat. 3, enacted February 1, 1952, codified at 35 U.S.C. ch. 17) is a body of United States federal law designed to prevent disclosure of new inventions and technologies that, in the opinion of selected federal agencies, present a possible threat to the national security of the United States.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 made such patent secrecy permanent, though the order to suppress any invention must be renewed each year (except during periods of declared war or national emergency)

And America has been at war since ? and still is


By the end of fiscal year 1991, the number of patent secrecy orders stood at 6,193. Many such orders were imposed on individuals and organizations working without government support. This number shrank for each fiscal year thereafter, until 2002. Since 2002, the number of secrecy orders has grown, with 5,002 secrecy orders in effect at the end of fiscal year 2007.
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posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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most people came here through ellis island and plenty of immigrants were refused and sent back while the unlucky ones were institutionalized on the island's immigrant hospital, a wall is nothing compared to being detained on an island for months or even years before being welcomed, detained or deported.

immigration to America has never been easy or pleasant and neither have we ever been very welcoming to immigrants or very kind either, modern immigration would be seen like paradise to immigrants back then.

people need to stop living in a fantasy land when thinking about immigration in America's past, the real reason immigration was so prolific was not because we let everyone in, we have always been strict and controlled who was allowed to enter and people from Europe were the target back then and Chinese were outright banned.

we were so prolific because America was seen as an escape not because it was a paradise or because it was easy.

it's always been hard.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: stonerwilliam


He was part of the immigration population that helped make the society that todays illegal aliens take advantage of. There is a very big difference.



posted on Jan, 20 2019 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: stonerwilliam

Did he come here illegally?


Most Americans did not come here legally according to Native Americans.


The American Indians were the losers of a 300 year war. Their opinion is irrelevant.



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