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Deceptive editing and lies used to smear Maga hat wearing teens as racist

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posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

Even CNN is saying WOAH, here is the REAL deal.

us.cnn.com...




posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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Discussed this elsewhere. Got informed wearing the MAGA hat was akin to wearing a Clan hood. Those poor souls at the Memorial who had to endure that! As such, these entitled kids simply mocked other cultures on a historic location on a historic weekend.

Nothing else took place. There were no other circumstances. The MAGA hat eclipses any other considerations. If these kids get death threats, it's on them.

If you watched the whole video and that's what you come away with, what am I supposed to say to that? Please don't get any slivers from your pitchfork and torch?

At this point I am simply trying to calm and center myself. It is depressing the mobs can be so easily swayed counter to what's before their own eyes. Makes me want to move even further back in the boonies.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Well. You chose to ignore the European angle on this, which is why I'll wear your adhoms with pride.



they attacked that neo nazi tucker carlsons home


...and left an entirely bombed driveway with an anarchy symbol. Oh, the horror! Let's label them a terror group asap?



Truly you are a frightening bigot


I never said the March of Life should be disrupted by Antifa, nor did anyone do so. Right? Why would you even go down this tangent?



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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I feel that I have to praise those young men all the way from Europe. This is how it all panned out in my head.

- I was reading the headline that claimed MAGA hatted youth were assaulting a native indian.

- I felt instant dissonance because that is not how the right works, that's how the left works. I literally couldn't believe it and felt kinda sad that there were some morons that would drag Trump and the mildly right like that.

- Played with the idea that if they really did that, they could have been fakes. I,e lefties trying to smear the right, it just didn't make sense.

- Got to the internet today and watched the whole video. And my worldview was restored.

I am so proud of those intelligent boys that didn't succumb to childish insults, screeching, reeeeeeeing or other infantile shennanigans.

However something else has happened.

- I have less sympathy for extreme, racist minorities. Actually I start to resent them as they keep showing me that their intelligence isn't quite up to par. They are taking the 'you have to feel sorry for me' right over the edge, so much so that I don't feel sorry any longer if they are allowed to spout such hatred and racism against minors.

Time to rip the victim badge right off and throw it into the gutter as they seem to be anything BUT oppressed. They should be in jail.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

I'm just going to leave this here for you since you have clearly been too busy proliferating your bias to actually get into the context of this thread.



in the nearly 2-hr video, do you really, and I mean honestly think that the most interesting thing, the most newsworthy thing that happened, was a kid smirking at a dude for about 25s?

Why is that all that CNN covered, out of everything going on here?

Why is it the only thing you care about, out of everything going on here?



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: ABNARTY

Crazy aint it. Then we have low-level scum like Kathy Griffin calling for them to be named and shamed. Really? She cant even get a gig now and is complaining about that, BUT, we gonna ruin a bunch of minors, and their families lives, for some video that has been edited to become click-bait.

www.foxnews.com...



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: DeadFoot

Woah woah, tl:dr.

At least say one hour and ten or eleven minutes, where "liawatha" shows up.

(should I have used numbers?)



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:10 AM
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Dbl post
edit on 21-1-2019 by thedigirati because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: DeadFoot

You know the answer and its to make Trump supporters look bad.

The question is why would the media use an edited clip and not watch the entire video? My guess is they make the headline making Trump supporters look bad and make a correction later when they've already inflicted massive damage.

My Facebook was full of the edited clip and people outraged by the kids. I was even upset until I found out more and it was the opposite
edit on 21-1-2019 by JDmOKI because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: JDmOKI

"If it bleeds it leads"

Even if we (media) have to cut them...



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: DeadFoot

Short answer: leave people alone?



Long answer: I'd say it's a good representation of the danger with such standoffs, the "editing" isn't an editing by definition but rather a reduction to the emotional highlight for easy hits and quota. No surprise whatsoever.

At some point I'll stop reading the hysteric faux outrage Doppelgänger threads and skip to mocking them blindly. I think we're there, folks!

*crickets*

Yeah. Whatever. Have a blaze!








posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

Yup. Not sure if I live on planet Earth anymore


Death threats to kids and their families is OK because...MAGA hat.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Justoneman



The first Indigenous Peoples' March was a political demonstration on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. on January 18, 2019. The event included speeches, prayers, songs, and dance, and was intended to draw attention to global injustices against indigenous peoples.[1] After 8:00 prayers outside the Building of Interior Affairs, the marchers proceeded along Constitution Avenue and ended at Henry Bacon Park, north of the Lincoln Memorial.[2] Organizers expected a crowd of about 10,000 people

en.wikipedia.org...

Not your Trump event, amirite? Back to the March for Life you go, kids! And don't forget to bring your hats...


OH, you wouild be surprised what all the truth is and it isn't the false one you have now. For one, my sister in law is talking to my wife now. A member of the Wolf Clan, she says "hi and love you" to me just before I read this post. She would prefer I say no more for her to remain safe from the likes of the leftist loons who would take their guns and free speech. They don't think very much of the haters on any side.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Tells us again how that kid smirking proves his white supremacy

Oh and while you are at it, any comment on the black and native activist making racial attacks on the kids?



Rich of you demanding comments on racial slurls
while you not so long ago defended and downplayed actions of a Hitler sympathizer Blair Cottrell

www.abovetopsecret.com...




Wow both deflection AND Godwin's Law in the same sentence?

You are special....you deserve a participation trophy for that post.



Now, back to the topic at hand. Please, answer his question like an adult with a functioning brain please. I know I would love to hear your response.



Pointing out that the OP is a hypocrite is on topic.
What question do you want me to answer old timer? What day it is today?


I am not a hypocrite

You have falsely accused me of defending a person I did not

Just like others falsely accused these kids of being racist and wrong

I understand it’s difficult to defend your statements that hard are racist and these kids deserved flak, and so you go to the tried and true method of just making crap up

But it’s ok, everyone sees you for what you are


MOST everyone Grambler will admit that at least. Some will be like the three monkeys and see no evil, except if it is an orange man.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Grambler




But antifa attacking speech rallies is ok because they are attacking racist.


We don't call Neo-Nazis free speech advocates here in Europe, no. That's a very special kind of spin, and it works on Fox-News and ATS only.
It was just a question of time before you guys would come up with that whataboutism again, I guess. Try again!



cultural marxism


Goes down like snake-oil, thanks! How is your white genocide doing today?





BUT you DO call innocent people NAZI and act like we don't get it when YOU don't get it. Wow, just wow. The enemy of the truth is now making mistakes. Easy to see the antifa ones can't withstand the truth of their fascist style being shown the light of day.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: lakenheath24

Even CNN is saying WOAH, here is the REAL deal.

us.cnn.com...

Way to make money (maintain viewerratings) on a news story that isn't newsworthy: report on it twice. Must have really cut into all the commercial time on CNN.

In other news (on CNN) and in between the commercials and news stories promoting some business venture, product (like 5G technology) or entertainment product (personality, or movies, TV-shows, books and sports), I think I saw about 10 seconds of a report on Israel's war profiteering in Syria, of course the term war profiteering was never mentioned:

Israel strikes Iranian targets in Syria after missile fired at Golan Heights - CNN

Not to distract from this oh-so vital subject of a bunch of weirdos going through some strange ritual in Washington D.C.



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: Grambler


Funny you mock the kids by saying there was no threat, but somehow feel that saying the same to this man is not having reasoning?

Where did I mock anyone?

:-)

What you did is claim people were picking on innocent boys. You wanted people to understand that there was more to the story

But, you couldn't allow that same possibility for Nathan Phillips. You had to make him a villain in order to make your point

You're just as guilty

Anyone that watched that longer video objectively could see that this was not a neutral situation. The behavior from the Black Hebrews earlier on was inexcusable, the boys behavior was less than exemplary - and Nathan Phillips was trying to do what he thought was the right thing in the moment. Probably not the best choice. All of this spontaneous, unscripted - and ugly

Thank god for cell phones - eh? Now we get to see stuff like this on a regular basis - it used to all just blend into the background

I personally think the young man did what any teenager might do in a situation that he's never been in before: stand there with a sh!t-eating grin trying to look tougher than he feels - and cooler than he'll ever be. He's released his statement (through a public relations firm - who does that?)

Mr. Phillips has given his account

Is it possible that nobody comes out looking good in this one? You're mad that the world pounced on those boys. But I don't see how you can honestly say they don't share some responsibility for how bad this looks

But hey - maybe I'm biased



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

He you said Phillips didn’t lie, he did as has been shown several times in this thread

I admitted some of the kids acted childishly, yet as a group the kids acted better than the other two groups

You did mock the kids, hence your statement how a guy beating a drum wasn’t a threat to them

Who said it was?

The only one claiming to be afraid and trying to escape was the drummer, who lied

But yes, at least you correctly point out you may be biased

Your posts on this thread definitely seem to indicate that



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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He you said Phillips didn’t lie, he did as has been shown several times in this thread


You say he lied based on your perception of what you saw. I don't see that he lied. You should give him the benefit of the doubt. But, you can't do that - can you?

As more of the “MAGA teens” flooded the plaza from behind us, our small group of remaining demonstrators moved forward, away from them. We were following Nathan Phillips, who played his drum with confidence and courage, and sang a sacred prayer for peace — to de-escalate the growing nervousness on the plaza. It was Nathan who’d lead us in the circle dance. A tall man with a drum and voice like his is hard to miss. And now the MAGA boys noticed Nathan, too.

From that point, things escalated quickly. We were surrounded by the boys, and we were alarmingly outnumbered. As we attempted to continue our path and move through the crowd, the boys closed in around us, until finally, one particular boy stood in front of Nathan and refused to let us pass.



Nathan stopped walking, but he kept singing and playing his drum — staring right into the smirking boy’s eyes. We all huddled around him as the other boys began to push, prod, and bump us into a tighter and tighter cluster. They were mocking Nathan’s sacred music with purposefully disrespectful dancing and a perverted imitation of his singing. Their imitations were the racist tropes of “Indian chants” — the stereotypical grunting and “hiyahiyahiyas” of representations past.

As the boys molded our huddle, I felt panic growing in my gut.
I felt trapped. There were so many of them around us that I couldn’t see out beyond them. All I could see was cold faces full of empty laughter, boys intoxicated on their own false sense of power, control, and entitlement.


Is she lying too?

ETA:


You did mock the kids, hence your statement how a guy beating a drum wasn’t a threat to them

Honestly Grambler - you really are a kind of special snowflake - when you need to be

edit on 1/21/2019 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963
Trump could do something even better..... invite them and their families to the White House for some burgers and fries



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