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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: face23785
It could be argued that trump used the lives of those people as a barging chip.
Should the daca people get the right to live her without being a chip in a political game?
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
The rhetoric of a master con artist, who's best days are behind him... He just comes across as stale and predictable.
Your bias is showing.
So, when he claimed "that some people say a wall could drop the crime rate and drug smuggling in the US by 50%"... you think he himself actually believes that?
LOL you dont think it will have any effect? man if it stops 20% it pays for itself in 3-4 years. Hell let him build it give him the funds then when it fails you can use it against him. Except the dems worry it wont fail, and he will use it as an achievement in 2020. It isnt about percentages its all political, and its playing with 800,000 furloughed fed employees on something that would likely work, if not let him do it and fail and you probably recapture the Presidency in 2020.
Nobody thinks it'll stop 100% of illegal immigration.
Well, Donald just claimed the wall could drop crime rate and illegal drug use in the US by 50%... Do you believe that?
He then said some people have said it could drop by up to 50%. .
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: face23785
It could be argued that trump used the lives of those people as a barging chip.
Should the daca people get the right to live her without being a chip in a political game?
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: DanDanDat
Every time the house sends a bill to the senate mitch blocks it. The house is trying.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: olaru12
He caved and the right wingers are not happy. He just threw away his hard line base and the 2020 election.
What makes you think this?
The AM radio right wingers wanted a state of emergency and troops on the border.
originally posted by: pavil
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: DanDanDat
Every time the house sends a bill to the senate mitch blocks it. The house is trying.
What new compromise has Pelosi been sending or talking about?
The pressure is on her to offer something to counter the President's proposal. He is at least making attempts.
Please tell me what is new and different in Pelosi's proposals that would get Trump to sign?
She can't just keep saying no with her not giving a counter offer.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
The rhetoric of a master con artist, who's best days are behind him... He just comes across as stale and predictable.
Your bias is showing.
So, when he claimed "that some people say a wall could drop the crime rate and drug smuggling in the US by 50%"... you think he himself actually believes that?
LOL you dont think it will have any effect? man if it stops 20% it pays for itself in 3-4 years. Hell let him build it give him the funds then when it fails you can use it against him. Except the dems worry it wont fail, and he will use it as an achievement in 2020. It isnt about percentages its all political, and its playing with 800,000 furloughed fed employees on something that would likely work, if not let him do it and fail and you probably recapture the Presidency in 2020.
Nobody thinks it'll stop 100% of illegal immigration.
Well, Donald just claimed the wall could drop crime rate and illegal drug use in the US by 50%... Do you believe that?
He then said some people have said it could drop by up to 50%. .
So you admit, it was just the rhetoric of a conman, attempting to swayed public opinion?
Why else would he have even said it, when it clearly isn't true?
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Nyiah
It would interesting to see that strategy played out. Businesses stop hiring illegals, in turn greatly reducing that reason of immigration.
Would paint a clearer statistical picture.
You have to wonder why this is never approached as a possibility.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Nyiah
It would interesting to see that strategy played out. Businesses stop hiring illegals, in turn greatly reducing that reason of immigration.
Would paint a clearer statistical picture.
You have to wonder why this is never approached as a possibility.
The House are passing show bills
They continue to absolutely refuse to compromise one iota.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: face23785
The House are passing show bills
Wasn't the speech trump just gave a "show speech"?
Something he knew they wouldn't go for.
They continue to absolutely refuse to compromise one iota.
The original republican lead bill had $25B in it for border security. That included money to repair existing fences and walls . That sounds like a compromise to me.
Trump refused that bill because he want's $5B for a new wall. The only point in all this that hasn't been compromised is trumps want of $5B specifically for that new wall.
Why doesn't trump compromise on that and ask for less money?
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Nyiah
It would interesting to see that strategy played out. Businesses stop hiring illegals, in turn greatly reducing that reason of immigration.
Would paint a clearer statistical picture.
You have to wonder why this is never approached as a possibility.
Because he's a business man and the WH dances to the tune of Lobbyists and big agriculture. Cheap labor is a staple of that industry and it's not gonna change. Trump even is going to allow even more ag. workers in.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: olaru12
He caved and the right wingers are not happy. He just threw away his hard line base and the 2020 election.
What makes you think this?
The AM radio right wingers wanted a state of emergency and troops on the border.
100 miles of border wall in exchange for amnestying millions of illegals. So if we grant citizenship to a BILLION foreigners, maybe we can finally get a full border wall.