Japanese Underwater Pyramids: Natural or Manmade?, page 1
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Topic started on 27-2-2005 @ 07:24 PM by rwatkins
I first learned of the Japanese Pyramids by watching a documentary on the History Channel from the Incredible but True series. I found a thread from 2003 where this was discussed, but no one questioned whether it was natural or manmade.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Kihachiro Aratake discovered the formation in 1995 off the island of Yonaguni under 60 feet of water. The formation really does not resemble a pyramid, but that is what most people refer to. The main structure called the Monument and is 500 feet long and 8 stories tall.



Other similar formations have also been discovered in the local vicinity, which leads many to believe that they were created by humans. The last time the area was above water was during the Ice Age when the sea level was lower, approximately 10,000 years ago. At this time, humans were believed to be nomadic hunter gatherers, and a structure like this would require organized social behavior.

Jim Mower, an archeologist at University College London, said: "If it is confirmed that the site is as old as 10,000 years and is man-made, then this is going to change an awful lot of the previous thinking on southeast Asian history. It would put the people who made the monument on a par with the ancient civilization of Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley."

Here are some sites with pictures and articles.
www.cyberspaceorbit.com...
www.cyberspaceorbit.com...
www.subversiveelement.com...

In the documentary they showed evidence that the formations could have been made by water erosion. Along the coastline at the waters edge, the rocks have step like erosion similar to the underwater structures. But, when I look at the pictures of the structures, it appears to me that there are obvious signs of unnatural carving. I am not a geologist or archeologist, but would like to point out a few features, and let people respond as to what they think.

First of all, they mention in the documentary that interior right angles cannot be natural, and I don’t see how this could have been created in such a straight line and perfect width.



This sheer wall is many times taller than any naturally formed step.



These holes are of the same size. If they were natural, what are the chances of them being the same size? In the article they state the holes may have been postholes.



The natural steps when formed also leave rubble at the base, and in this picture you will see there is none.



Many of the pictures like this one show steps, but they don’t seem to be organized, as in a normal staircase. So this leads me to believe parts of the structure were formed naturally.



So, I have to agree with the conclusion discussed in the History Channel documentary that the main parts of the structures were probably formed naturally, but then humans worked on them. They carved channels and postholes, and cleared the rubble. They cut the sides of the structure to make the sheer walls. Maybe they erected wooden structures on top of them.

So let me know what you think. Any additional information would be appreciated.


reply posted on 28-2-2005 @ 09:38 PM by rwatkins
I found a picture of the pair of eyes, called Yona Face. It doesn't show it but in the documentary, they point out the head dress on the side.



Found it at this site:
www.s8int.com...

This one is called the Twin Towers.



This one shows a semi circular form.



I think these show further evidence that humans probably carved these into the structure.


reply posted on 1-3-2005 @ 08:25 PM by rwatkins
Originally posted by skychief
From the pictures, these formations look like they have definitely been worked on by man. I know that the whole region is very dynamic due to volcanic and seismic activity but I doubt some of the more compelling formations could have been caused by "natural" causes. It makes you wonder though, how fast these formations were swallowed up by the sea. Was it a gradual process that took hundreds, if not thousands, of years or was it rather quick? If the latter, is this why we don't find any other similar structures nearby in coastal areas. It also makes you wonder if we should not be studying nearby, submerged, coastal areas around the globe, more closely, looking for signs of ancient civilizations. For example, after the tsunami in Indonesia, artifacts from an ancient port city in India were unearthed.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'


Skychief, it looks like your links were changed with a new article, must be a circular. But there is another thread on the India discoveries.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have also heard of other possible underwater civilizations elsewhere, and will investigate. If I find any definitive sites that haven't been discussed, I will do additional threads.

I think what the Japanese Pyramids tell us is that there is a large part of history that we are just starting to learn about. I know alot of people aren't interested in this, but I think it's very cool.

BTW, had to change my avatar, hope this doesn't confuse anyone.

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