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Steve King Calls His Removal “Unprecedented Assault “ of Freedom of Speech.

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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
There is a fine line with freedom of speech but we also don't want White Nationalists, Neo Nazis or racists as our leaders. We literally had a couple of wars over this. With the South over slavery and ww2 against Nazi's. Look it up. Also take some time and google things King has done and said and who he supports.


You forgot the main factor about why the South went to war since Lincoln couldn't have cared less about slaves. They didn't want a tyrannical government making all the rules for them. I can see the same thing happening in the near future as this country's politics have gotten so polarized.




posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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King was merely politically incorrect. I think he is correct that his being censured has First Amendment implications.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: PublicOpinion

originally posted by: projectvxn
This is a post-free speech world because sensitive little bitches in the Democrat party and its liberal base have ZERO emotional coping mechanisms.

These idiots can't discuss ANYTHING for fear of being offended.

Free speech is dead. Liberals killed with with their PC culture, and now they have tech giant enforcers and the media to ostricize anyone who gets out of line.


Wait a second. He was spouting racist rhetoric but it's the lefts fault when he has to face the consequences for his own brainchild?

Sure thing! No whiny rightwing weakling stumbling upon his own crap, it's the lefts fault! Guess they've extracted his brain and made him drunk enough to post this in the first place! And Soros paid for this character assassination.



The irony is crazy, considering 90% of political arguments on this site. He's Republican, and Republicans kicked him out. But it's somehow the Left's fault. HOW?!

Conservatives do the exact things that they constantly berate Liberals for doing. Two sides of the same coin. Bipartisan politics are ridiculous.


Because the left created this PC culture we're living in. Don't play coy. You know damn good and well how we got to this point. Those RINOs that kicked him out are typical Republicans (in name only) that are afraid of being called names by the left wing organizations across America.


So you're saying Republicans can't stand up for their beliefs now, and Democrats/Left Wing folks are more powerful?


No that's not what I'm saying at all. Democrats are certainly more powerful on the television, though, as they would have bitched and complained and called us all the same names they've been calling us, but a certain faction of scared RINOs don't want to be bullied in the liberal media so they made a choice that would keep their names from being negatively looked at in the media. They don't wanna be bullied.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: underwerks
Anyone who wonders out loud why the words “white supremecist” became offensive shouldn’t hold any position in government.

Despite what our reality-challenged right wingers here believe, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. He wasn’t stopped from saying what he said, and no one is trying to. As a matter of fact it was reported widely. So his right to say what he wants hasn’t been infringed.

What he wasn’t free to do is to be exempt from the consequences of what he said. And that has nothing to do with his first amendment rights being violated. That’s exactly how things are supposed to work.

All the “free speech” people here are doing is being angry because someone got called out for their idiotic small minded racist statements. Which in turn makes me think that either they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how our rights work or they agree with this ancient POS.

Take your pick.


He said three phrases. I'm just talking about the latest statement that caused all this not "other peoples babies." He said white supremacist, white nationalist, and western civilization. I would think if he just said western civilization, that wouldn't be so problematic. However in most discussions about this, western civilization is what gets attacked. Specifically it's history.

I don't know why white supremacist or white nationalist is so often left out. At least I could understand that in a world view that sees competition between peoples whether you define as race, religion or whatever criteria. After all, the Islamists tell us straight out they intend to take over the world. The Jewish people say they are the "chosen" people, so why is white so offensive? All of the other groups participated in slavery also.


Absolutely. Nobody ever cries about Africa capturing and selling their own. They just point and blame the white man, even though slavery was just as much a part of the history in many countries.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: underwerks
Anyone who wonders out loud why the words “white supremecist” became offensive shouldn’t hold any position in government.

Despite what our reality-challenged right wingers here believe, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. He wasn’t stopped from saying what he said, and no one is trying to. As a matter of fact it was reported widely. So his right to say what he wants hasn’t been infringed.

What he wasn’t free to do is to be exempt from the consequences of what he said. And that has nothing to do with his first amendment rights being violated. That’s exactly how things are supposed to work.

All the “free speech” people here are doing is being angry because someone got called out for their idiotic small minded racist statements. Which in turn makes me think that either they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how our rights work or they agree with this ancient POS.

Take your pick.


Dude, you live on the west coast. What do you know about reality?


Aaannnd, you just jumped the shark. Typical conservative talking point when you run out of actual content, "but the West Coast sucks, and West Coast people know nothing!"

How about actually refuting what he said, rather than just trying to make fun of where he lives?


I didn't make fun of where he lives. That entire coast is full of people who run propaganda and try to brainwash people.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: LSU2018

So you would not consider Alexander's conquest of the known world and the resultant Hellenic Culture as an improvement? What about the Gallic Tribes? Do you believe that they would be better off if they were never conquered by Rome?


I'm not knowledgeable enough of their history that far back. My comments reflect current times.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: bastion
Guess he's never read a history book, blasphemy, apostates, pagans, crusades, the church, eugenics, final solution, third/furth rech, us doomsday reoublican Israeli cult, gulags, north lore, russie, eastern Europe, samarkland, us ise of boiling suspected terrorists (withut evidence or warrant in couldrens of fat in the ME etc....60m+ dead in African WW3 so we can get iphones and get rich buying cheap tech -


Got to love 99.-pc not having a clue about the world. MAGA 0 kill everone else and destroy everything the US was fiunded for - domocracy, freedom, good force on the world,peace riantated, allies - been polar opposite for 30 years and no Americans lift a finger 0- more interested in bickering about this weeks non-story and paid per each ridiculous omment talking heads in fox, cnn, media an the like.


sounds like you didn't just drink the kool aid, you moved into the kool aid factory



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: LSU2018

Sorry but the whole concept of equality means that something has the same worth as something else. If things are not equal that must mean one is greater and one is lesser.

As to your analogy, Dannica Patrick is superior to Drew Brees when it comes to racing. Drew Brees is superior to Dannica Patrick when it comes to football. They are not equal when it comes to racing or football.

So yes, the belief that cultures aren't equal must mean that you believe that certain cultures are better than others.


Equal means the same. A third world culture is not the same as American culture.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: underwerks
Anyone who wonders out loud why the words “white supremecist” became offensive shouldn’t hold any position in government.

Despite what our reality-challenged right wingers here believe, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. He wasn’t stopped from saying what he said, and no one is trying to. As a matter of fact it was reported widely. So his right to say what he wants hasn’t been infringed.

What he wasn’t free to do is to be exempt from the consequences of what he said. And that has nothing to do with his first amendment rights being violated. That’s exactly how things are supposed to work.

All the “free speech” people here are doing is being angry because someone got called out for their idiotic small minded racist statements. Which in turn makes me think that either they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how our rights work or they agree with this ancient POS.

Take your pick.


Dude, you live on the west coast. What do you know about reality?


Aaannnd, you just jumped the shark. Typical conservative talking point when you run out of actual content, "but the West Coast sucks, and West Coast people know nothing!"

How about actually refuting what he said, rather than just trying to make fun of where he lives?


I didn't make fun of where he lives. That entire coast is full of people who run propaganda and try to brainwash people.


I'd say the entire country is. DC is on the east coast. So is NYC. There's also a ridiculous number of very smart people on the West Coast. Same with the East Coast.

Every region of the country has good and bad people. Just because you disagree with the politics of a certain region doesn't inherently make it a bad place. Bad for you maybe, but not bad for everyone.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: FilthyUSMonkey
a reply to: Xcalibur254
2,500 years ago European western culture consisted of crapping in a dirt hole dug with a deer antler outside of a hut made of mud, wattle, grass and animal hides, and eating meat cooked with sticks over a smoky fire. In western Asia, north Africa, southern Europe, India and China people lived in beautiful homes of finished wood, marble and granite, ate delicately spiced foods prepared in ovens and over stoves on plates of gold and silver, and used indoor plumbing complete with hot and cold running water.



You keep railing on about western civilization. Which one do you think is better?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Propagandalf

Which ones are the best and what qualities makes them the best? I mean it must be an easy question to give such a flippant answer.

Objectively, India and China have existed far longer than any other culture on the planet. Not to mention their countless contributions to every aspect of life. That would seemingly make them the best cultures out there.

Should we strive to be more like them?


I'm interested in their answer, and would just like to add: Nordic countries have better health, better happiness levels, better wealth distribution, etc. Should we strive to be more like them as well?


Should we strive for socialism like a country with 8,000,000 citizens which almost all who are working age have a job and put into the honey pot? No, because we have a population of over 330 million and there are too many that won't to sit at home and take from the money pot so those of us with a job are left fending for our families and ourselves.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

Why? Once again, what metrics are used to define a superior culture?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: narrator
That was my entire point. Equal in the eyes of the law. Their opinion is no better or worse than ours, just different. Physically, obviously there are differences/inequalities. That does not infer superiority or inferiority though, which is what I've been saying the entire time.
What was your point, to agree with me?


ETA: Reply to LSU2018, no idea why that didn't come up when I clicked "quote"


Ok, but I've veered away from the superior/inferior talk since this thread started.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

And the culture that works for a population of 330 million would not work for a small tribe of a few dozen.

You just admitted that a culture's greatness is subjective. So how can you claim that one is superior to another?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Drucifer


I very much fail to see how big cities with mixed cultures aren’t complete proof that mixed cultures work


We've always been known as the melting pot.

Back in the day, that meant the mixing of cultures, races, creeds, ideology, and anything else you could use to describe (not define) a person.

Now I think we're the melting pot of lead, to be turned into freedom delivery sabots.


A popular myth unfortunately taught in our school systems by brainwashed social Marxists. The phrase was the name of a play. "The Melting Pot (play)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Melting Pot is a play by Israel Zangwill, first staged in 1908. It depicts the life of a Russian Jewish immigrant family, the Quixanos."

There was no melting pot before then. The US was 90% white until 1970. You could say it was a melting pot of white, European peoples.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Drucifer


I very much fail to see how big cities with mixed cultures aren’t complete proof that mixed cultures work


We've always been known as the melting pot.

Back in the day, that meant the mixing of cultures, races, creeds, ideology, and anything else you could use to describe (not define) a person.

Now I think we're the melting pot of lead, to be turned into freedom delivery sabots.


A popular myth unfortunately taught in our school systems by brainwashed social Marxists. The phrase was the name of a play. "The Melting Pot (play)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Melting Pot is a play by Israel Zangwill, first staged in 1908. It depicts the life of a Russian Jewish immigrant family, the Quixanos."

There was no melting pot before then. The US was 90% white until 1970. You could say it was a melting pot of white, European peoples.


Should America not be a melting pot of various cultures and peoples?

If not, why?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: underwerks
Anyone who wonders out loud why the words “white supremecist” became offensive shouldn’t hold any position in government.

Despite what our reality-challenged right wingers here believe, this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. He wasn’t stopped from saying what he said, and no one is trying to. As a matter of fact it was reported widely. So his right to say what he wants hasn’t been infringed.

What he wasn’t free to do is to be exempt from the consequences of what he said. And that has nothing to do with his first amendment rights being violated. That’s exactly how things are supposed to work.

All the “free speech” people here are doing is being angry because someone got called out for their idiotic small minded racist statements. Which in turn makes me think that either they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how our rights work or they agree with this ancient POS.

Take your pick.


He said three phrases. I'm just talking about the latest statement that caused all this not "other peoples babies." He said white supremacist, white nationalist, and western civilization. I would think if he just said western civilization, that wouldn't be so problematic. However in most discussions about this, western civilization is what gets attacked. Specifically it's history.

I don't know why white supremacist or white nationalist is so often left out. At least I could understand that in a world view that sees competition between peoples whether you define as race, religion or whatever criteria. After all, the Islamists tell us straight out they intend to take over the world. The Jewish people say they are the "chosen" people, so why is white so offensive? All of the other groups participated in slavery also.


Absolutely. Nobody ever cries about Africa capturing and selling their own. They just point and blame the white man, even though slavery was just as much a part of the history in many countries.


Jewish and Islamic people were also involved. As far as blacks go, slavery still exists in parts of Africa. And also the middle east but I don't know if it's actually legal there.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Drucifer


I very much fail to see how big cities with mixed cultures aren’t complete proof that mixed cultures work


We've always been known as the melting pot.

Back in the day, that meant the mixing of cultures, races, creeds, ideology, and anything else you could use to describe (not define) a person.

Now I think we're the melting pot of lead, to be turned into freedom delivery sabots.


A popular myth unfortunately taught in our school systems by brainwashed social Marxists. The phrase was the name of a play. "The Melting Pot (play)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Melting Pot is a play by Israel Zangwill, first staged in 1908. It depicts the life of a Russian Jewish immigrant family, the Quixanos."

There was no melting pot before then. The US was 90% white until 1970. You could say it was a melting pot of white, European peoples.


Should America not be a melting pot of various cultures and peoples?

If not, why?


Maybe it should but let's be honest about history. I know that's problematic since history is not taught much anymore. Not even "social studies" propaganda. People today are brought up believing the founding fathers designed a society where everyone was equal and all races and people were encouraged. Then they are shocked when they learn the founders were slave owners. They think the poem on the statue of liberty is a law. They don't realize women only got the vote about 100 years ago.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: toms54

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Drucifer


I very much fail to see how big cities with mixed cultures aren’t complete proof that mixed cultures work


We've always been known as the melting pot.

Back in the day, that meant the mixing of cultures, races, creeds, ideology, and anything else you could use to describe (not define) a person.

Now I think we're the melting pot of lead, to be turned into freedom delivery sabots.


A popular myth unfortunately taught in our school systems by brainwashed social Marxists. The phrase was the name of a play. "The Melting Pot (play)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Melting Pot is a play by Israel Zangwill, first staged in 1908. It depicts the life of a Russian Jewish immigrant family, the Quixanos."

There was no melting pot before then. The US was 90% white until 1970. You could say it was a melting pot of white, European peoples.


Should America not be a melting pot of various cultures and peoples?

If not, why?


Maybe it should but let's be honest about history. I know that's problematic since history is not taught much anymore. Not even "social studies" propaganda. People today are brought up believing the founding fathers designed a society where everyone was equal and all races and people were encouraged. Then they are shocked when they learn the founders were slave owners. They think the poem on the statue of liberty is a law. They don't realize women only got the vote about 100 years ago.


Well, to be fair, everything you just said paints American culture in a bad light. Wouldn't it be better for us to mix in some other cultures?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: amazing

Denounce this fool and then we can talk.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Okay. I'll denounce him. Let's talk. But why do we always have to compare people and combine topics? If Steve King is a racist so be it...it doesn't mean we have to discuss every other single racist in the world. LOl If I tell you that eating mcdonalds will kill you we don't have to go into a list of every bad food on the planet.
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