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Democrats Prepare Hearings On "Rightwing Extremism"

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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: JinMI

Really? Then why is it anytime a thread is made condemning neo-Nazis it's like pulling teeth getting most members to agree with the simple position that neo-Nazis are bad?


First, source for the claim that neo-nazis aren't bad?

Also worth mentioning, simply because someone assigns a label, surely doesn't make it fact.




posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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This place is full of them. a reply to: Xcalibur254



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Atomwaffen is a fringe group with 80 people at most.

Antifa is a nationwide movement with considerable media and institutional support.

Which is a bigger threat?


At first glance, five killings in three states since last May appeared to be unrelated, isolated cases.But a common thread is emerging. Three young men have been charged, and all appear to have links to the same white supremacist group: the Atomwaffen Division...Devon Arthurs, 19, was charged with killing two roommates. He told police he was an Atomwaffen member
Source
Boy, that is seven murders with about 30 seconds of research. How many murders can you source to ANTIFA?

Thought so.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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dbl
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: soundguy
This place is full of them. a reply to: Xcalibur254


Extremists? Yea, I can name a few and even show posting history......


Full of them? No.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:00 PM
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here is the biggest problem with this they only seem to be interested in RIGHTWING Extremism. now if it was just extremism it would be a different story. as it stands with being all about Rightwing Extremism, it shows that this is really just a way to try to destroy their political opponents. the democrats and left taking yet more pages from Nazism and communism yet again. it's really getting to the point where we could actually consider the democrats and leftists as extremist, hate groups when all is said and done.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: generik

And those on the Right have spent the last 17+ years only concerned with Islamic extremism.

Where were all these calls for a broad approach during that time?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: generik

Getting called "extremist, or a hate group" by a white nationalist is like being called dishonest by Donald Trump.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: DeadFoot

originally posted by: FilthyUSMonkey
Anyone heard of this “far right domestic terrorism” stuff?


It's a crime that happens to college students when they meet someone who disagrees with them I'm sure.
Literally the holocaust reborn!



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

As I said in the past, there are members of ATS that really don't want us discussing Right Wing extremism. You really have to wonder why that's the case.
I’m sure that’s true, for a range of reasons.

The same goes though for those that don’t acknowledge left wing extremism in its forms.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Really? We have 5 million threads discussing how horrible Antifa and BLM are. Meanwhile any thread discussing Right Wing extremism we get people trying to turn it into a thread discussing how horrible Antifa and BLM are.

The reaction to this thread is the perfect example. I haven't seen anybody actually respond to the OP. Instead it's post after post complaining about the Left.
have you considered that’s because in the media it’s non stop hysteria about Nazis being everywhere, and how fascist and Nazi the right is?
Everything is ‘white nationalism,’ racism, etc.

Meanwhile, generally blm and even more so, Antifa, get a pass in the media. For the most part.

The hysteria is def going mostly one direction right now.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

As I said in the past, there are members of ATS that really don't want us discussing Right Wing extremism. You really have to wonder why that's the case.
I’m sure that’s true, for a range of reasons.

The same goes though for those that don’t acknowledge left wing extremism in its forms.


Truthfully, shouldn't the hearings be on domestic extremism in general, not "right" or "left" extremism? If people are being perfectly honest, there is plenty of it going around.

The extremists at UT-Austin have been stalking campus conservatives at various classes and functions, taking pictures of them, filming them, and other things in an effort to uncover their personal lives and information and then doxxing them so they can be harassed, even to their employers.

These are not Proud Boys, they're just college Republicans who do things like listen to Ben Shapiro or "like" Tomi Lahren on facebook.

But for that, they're being publically exposed and their employers are being harassed in efforts to get them fired.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


Seriously: What is your problem? Nobody in this thread is defending Atomwaffen, but you keep bringing them up. Yet you keep trying to defend Antifa, who by all external appearances exist primarily to harass & intimidate people who don't tow the DNC party line.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:29 PM
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A certain segment of society wishes that Nazism and Fascism would return, at least to prove to the rest of us that their perpetual fantasies and worries of a far-right resurgence were somewhat justified.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf
A certain segment of society wishes that Nazism and Fascism would return, at least to prove to the rest of us that their perpetual fantasies and worries of a far-right resurgence were somewhat justified.


Ironically enough, fascism is returning in a new guise, but it's busy telling us all that it's not what it is.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I remember when states started passing laws against stalking (in the early
1980's). These days, I think we need to start passing laws regulating doxing. There are situations where doxing someone is defensible, even necessary, but the vast majority of the time it's just done as a form of harassment.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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Right, and I think such harassment is a form of ideological extremism.

I agree, and am against double standards and policy being shaped by biased ideology rather than fairness. Yes, any schedule of hearings should address ang dangerous extremism. It would be okay if each session had a focus as long as other sessions were balanced.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: Xcalibur254


Seriously: What is your problem? Nobody in this thread is defending Atomwaffen, but you keep bringing them up. Yet you keep trying to defend Antifa, who by all external appearances exist primarily to harass & intimidate people who don't tow the DNC party line.


I don't think "towing the party line" of the DNC is what ANTIFA is all about. It is all in the name: Anti-Fascist:

The Antifa1] movement is a conglomeration of left wing autonomous, militant anti-fascist[7] groups in the United States.[11] The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action.[12] They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.[18] Conflicts are both online and in real life.[14] Activists involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists[19] and they subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They included anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.[25] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means.
Wiki

Didn't see anything about the DNC in that little blurb. In fact, the last line says:Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means Doesn't sound like they go door to door passing out DNC flyers or manning phone banks before elections. We all know what ANTIFA does: they hunt fascists.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: FilthyUSMonkey

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Really? We have 5 million threads discussing how horrible Antifa and BLM are. Meanwhile any thread discussing Right Wing extremism we get people trying to turn it into a thread discussing how horrible Antifa and BLM are.

The reaction to this thread is the perfect example. I haven't seen anybody actually respond to the OP. Instead it's post after post complaining about the Left.


Maybe because the ‘left’ are hateful fascists who seek to outlaw anyone they see as ‘opposition’ by labelling them as ‘hate groups’ and ‘extremists’ When they’re anything but.

The communist manifesto comes to mind.

Do you see the splc calling the ‘nation of islam’ and extremist hate group???

I think it’s the fact that it’s the fascist left who are labelling these groups (and actually being taken seriously) that the people of the country are worried about.

Mark my words, by their definition I’m sure YOU belong to one of their ‘hate’ sectors of society and when they decide that it’s your turn, it will be your turn.

Communism, socialism and fascism are a very slippery slope. It’s best not to let them even get started.


Wow! I didn't realize it had gotten to this point!
Do you have any sources you could point me to so I could learn more of these truths of which you speak? Are there any places I could go to verify your statements?
Not that I don't believe you - you seem perfectly rational and all...It's just that I remember someone once told me to always check out facts for myself...just to make sure they are true and all that....because sometimes it is hard to spot crazy people....

So, those sources will be right up, Eh?


You mean the sources that YOU provided?

Splc, an extremist hate group, gets to decide and define ‘hate groups’

Communist manifesto anyone?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: FilthyUSMonkey

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: Xcalibur254


Seriously: What is your problem? Nobody in this thread is defending Atomwaffen, but you keep bringing them up. Yet you keep trying to defend Antifa, who by all external appearances exist primarily to harass & intimidate people who don't tow the DNC party line.


I don't think you "towing the party line of the DNC is what ANTIFA is all about. It is all in the name: Anti-Fascist:

The Antifa1] movement is a conglomeration of left wing autonomous, militant anti-fascist[7] groups in the United States.[11] The principal feature of antifa groups is their use of direct action.[12] They engage in varied protest tactics, which include digital activism, property damage, physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.[18] Conflicts are both online and in real life.[14] Activists involved in the movement tend to be anti-capitalists[19] and they subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left. They included anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.[25] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means.
Wiki

Didn't see anything about the DNC in that little blurb. In fact, the last line says:Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than through electoral means Doesn't sound like they go door to door passing out DNC flyers or manning phone banks before elections. We all know what ANTIFA does: they hunt fascists.


Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a Democratic Republic? It's in the name, after all.




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