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Democrats Prepare Hearings On "Rightwing Extremism"

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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

That's a very specific definition with no contact to the reality whatsoever. According to your redundant list, the Grey Wolves are not rightwing extremists and the genocide in East Timor didn't happen.

Stop with the lies and own your brown crap already? You guys wouldn't be running around in circles if his base wasn't involved. Any 4th degree Proud Boys here to make my point?




posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka
At this point, words like "racist" and "Nazi" have been watered down and over-used to the point where they're almost totally meaningless. Democrats are constantly accusing Trump of racism, but if you ask them to name even one example of Trump saying/doing something racist, they either ignore you or accuse you of being racist for daring to call them out on their bullsh!t.

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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's always the fcking Dixiecrats, eh?


Paul Ryan, the House speaker, has condemned Donald Trump for “the textbook definition of a racist comment” for his claim a judge of Mexican heritage could not judge him fairly, but stood by his decision to support the presumptive Republican nominee for president.

Ryan’s counterpart in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, said Trump should stop attacking minority groups.

“My advice to our nominee is to start talking about the issues that the American people care about, and to start doing it now,” the Senate Republican leader told reporters on Tuesday. “In addition to that, it’s time to quit attacking various people that you competed with or various minority groups in the country and get on message.”

www.theguardian.com...



Mitt Romney, the former Republican presidential candidate, has condemned Donald Trump for setting a dangerous example for Americans by promoting "trickle-down racism".

Speaking in Utah at his annual business and politics summit on Saturday, Romney said the Republican party must look beyond this presidential election to find its future.

www.aljazeera.com...

Give it to me straight, what are you? A liar or just another blissfully ignorant moron?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Ohanka

That's a very specific definition with no contact to the reality whatsoever. According to your redundant list, the Grey Wolves are not rightwing extremists and the genocide in East Timor didn't happen.

Stop with the lies and own your brown crap already? You guys wouldn't be running around in circles if his base wasn't involved. Any 4th degree Proud Boys here to make my point?


The grey wolves aren't Nazis. The Proud Boys aren't Nazis. It's a specific definition because that is the definition of Nazism as laid out by it's founders.

It's like saying you're a Muslim even though you don't believe in Muhammad, you're more into the not eating pork part of Islam. Utter nonsense.
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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

I must be on the right track if all you could do to discredit my argument was to attack the source for not conforming to your ideology. Here is another source.


The country is seeing a surge in terrorism. There were only six attacks in the US a decade ago, but 65 in 2017. The number of fatalities is also increasing.

Most attacks in 2017 were thought to be motivated by right-leaning ideologies, a Quartz analysis of data from the Global Terrorism Database shows. Out of 65 incidents, 37 were tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government, or xenophobic motivations.


Quartz:Terrorism is surging in the US, fueled by right-wing ideologies

Are you saying we should be soft on terrorism? Surely you disagree with these right-wing extremists who double as terrorists?

I understand that you don't want to be labeled as a terrorist just because of your views. But think about it, that's how you guys treat Muslims - as if they are all terrorists. Liberals don't like that, and I personally wouldn't agree with locking someone up just for their political views, either. But the data shows that we need to deal with right-wing extremism in the U.S. relating to violence and terrorism.
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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
What about the far left like antifa? They are spreading terror and hurting people.
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The data doesn't show a rise in terrorism from the far-left, but it does show a rise in terrorism from the far-right. That's why it matters.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Wardaddy454

I stand mistaken. That is #10. Still the point remains. Only two of the top 10 deadliest terror attacks in US history were the result of Islamic extremism. The rest were committed in the name of white supremacy.


So first you said it was ‘right wing extremism’ and now you’re saying ‘white supremacy’.

Which is it?

Because they are NOT the same thing. Not even close.


Wonder how it can be "White Supremacy" when many of the victims are they themselves white...

You didn’t get the memo: literally everything is white supremacy.


How white Supremacist of me.




posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: Gothmog

I must be on the right track if all you could do to discredit my argument was to attack the source for not conforming to your ideology. Here is another source.


The country is seeing a surge in terrorism. There were only six attacks in the US a decade ago, but 65 in 2017. The number of fatalities is also increasing.

Most attacks in 2017 were thought to be motivated by right-leaning ideologies, a Quartz analysis of data from the Global Terrorism Database shows. Out of 65 incidents, 37 were tied to racist, anti-Muslim, homophobic, anti-Semitic, fascist, anti-government, or xenophobic motivations.


Quartz:Terrorism is surging in the US, fueled by right-wing ideologies

Are you saying we should be soft on terrorism? Surely you disagree with these right-wing extremists who double as terrorists?

I understand that you don't want to be labeled as a terrorist just because of your views. But think about it, that's how you guys treat Muslims - as if they are all terrorists. Liberals don't like that, and I personally wouldn't agree with locking someone up just for their political views, either. But the data shows that we need to deal with right-wing extremism in the U.S. relating to violence and terrorism.


So half then.

And why is Charlottesville being counted? The girl died from a heart attack, the vehicle never struck her.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

And you think that certain believes are not full of spite and hate, like the holocaust denial for example? So you feel that should be ok unless they don't resolve to physical violence?


Not really, more so when we have seen the SPCL label people like Ron Paul and judge Andrew Napolitano as "right-wing extremists" for daring to question Obama's policies...

Stop playing dumb already. The left in general, including the left-wing media, has been labeling everyone who dares lean to the right as "right-wing extremists."

We even have dumba$$ left-wing psychologists going as far as claiming the POTUS is mentally ill for "his political opinions" which include wanting to put a stop on illegal immigration...

This use of "psychology" for political purposes aka "political abuse of psychology" has been misused in the past, including by the nazis who labeled political opponents as "mentally ill" to suppress any, and every political opposition. It is what the left in general is doing today as well. Not to mention also using the "racist, xenophobic, etc, etc" labels to try to suppress any dissenting views that do not agree with the "beliefs of the left."



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion


Give it to me straight, what are you? A liar or just another blissfully ignorant moron?


oh boy, here we go... "you don't agree with me? *start insulting.*

And that's what you, leftists, call a logical argument?...


BTW, several videos have been shown in the past of "minorities" including Mexicans agreeing with POTUS Trump and stating he is not a racist for wanting to stop illegal immigration and the crimes that pour into the U.S. from the southern border...

But hey, according to you, and your globalist pals Mexicans like the following example must be "racists as well..."




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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: rickymouse
What about the far left like antifa? They are spreading terror and hurting people.
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The data doesn't show a rise in terrorism from the far-left, but it does show a rise in terrorism from the far-right. That's why it matters.


So, who determines that the cause is liberal or conservative? The beliefs of the officers who are evaluating the situation determines what type of event happened.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Ohanka

Well. I thought this is about rightwing extremism and not about labels and "korrekt" definitions for the long gone party of killjoys. They might not fit our definition of an original NSDAP Nazi, but they can still be called Neo-Nazis without asking you to sign off on that.


It borrows elements from Nazi doctrine

en.wikipedia.org...

You better tell them that they don't fit your definition in case they only borrow some elements, and not all of them. Just let us know how it worked out for you!

 

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You're missing the point - even Republicans raised concerns regarding Trumps racism. To state, that only the fcking Dixiecats would dare to do such a thing, would be a straight lie.
Maybe he's just a misinformed and innocent moron though. I really couldn't care less.


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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:43 PM
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You do realize that radical Muslims are right wingers right, and especially so in their own countries?

a reply to: darkbake



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: rickymouse
What about the far left like antifa? They are spreading terror and hurting people.
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The data doesn't show a rise in terrorism from the far-left, but it does show a rise in terrorism from the far-right. That's why it matters.


Have you looked at the data yourself?

It's laughable.

Data

Here's just one example of what they're calling terrorism...

Free Speech Project

A white guy stabbed a black guy who wouldn't get out of his way... terrorism.

I've found other cases like this as well and I'm only on page 2 of 194. Basically every alleged hate crime perpetrated by white people is being considered an act of terrorism.

And for some reason, whoever put that "data" together couldn't come up with a label for the black extremist who shot up that church in Antioch...
Wiki

Or the anti-racist extremist who was about to blow up a confederate statue with nitroglycerin.
CNN


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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
You do realize that radical Muslims are right wingers right, and especially so in their own countries?

a reply to: darkbake


I had one refuse to rent my brother and I a motel room because we were going to share the bed... and that was in Austin!




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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: Bone75



It is common for the media and others to assume that anti-government extremists are also mostly white supremacists, but this is not the case. Though there is some overlap between the two spheres, the main anti-government extremist movements direct their anger at the government and there have always been people of color in these movements.

www.adl.org...

However. Did you know that they've changed the definition for terrorism in the EU after the G20 protests in Hamburg? Arson of (empty) vehicles is a terror attack by now. Not that I can't imagine why the owners would think so, but it's kinda odd and exactly what the conspiracy theorists saw coming 17 years ago.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Wardaddy454

I stand mistaken. That is #10. Still the point remains. Only two of the top 10 deadliest terror attacks in US history were the result of Islamic extremism. The rest were committed in the name of white supremacy.


So first you said it was ‘right wing extremism’ and now you’re saying ‘white supremacy’.

Which is it?

Because they are NOT the same thing. Not even close.


Wonder how it can be "White Supremacy" when many of the victims are they themselves white...

You didn’t get the memo: literally everything is white supremacy.


How white Supremacist of me.



You can gain temporary salvation by engaging in public self flagellation, saying three hail Obamas on twitter, and committing to sjw virtue signaling on all future relevant threads.
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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
You do realize that radical Muslims are right wingers right, and especially so in their own countries?

a reply to: darkbake


I had one refuse to rent my brother and I a motel room because we were going to share the bed... and that was in Austin!



really? Wow



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion

You're missing the point - even Republicans raised concerns regarding Trumps racism. To state, that only the fcking Dixiecats would dare to do such a thing, would be a straight lie.
Maybe he's just a misinformed and innocent moron though. I really couldn't care less.



You mean rinos, aka establishment rinos who have a voting record of voting "progressive." As in the case of Paul Ryan, his voting record is half "progressive..."

BTW, the ones missing the point are, as you put it, 'the morons' who keep claiming "Trump and his followers are racists," when many of us, yes including me, are Hispanics who know for a fact nothing he has said has been "racist..."



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
You do realize that radical Muslims are right wingers right, and especially so in their own countries?

a reply to: darkbake



What the heck are you talking about?... The majority of Muslims are "left-wing..." Even in other nations, like in Europe, Muslims tend to vote left-wing, because socialist policies are part of their religion.

www.pewforum.org...


Islamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to describe a more spiritual form of socialism. Muslim socialists believe that the teachings of the Quran and Muhammad—especially the zakat—are compatible with principles of economic and social equality. They draw inspiration from the early Medinan welfare state established by Muhammad. Muslim socialists found their roots in anti-imperialism. Muslim socialist leaders believe in the derivation of legitimacy from the public.
...

en.wikipedia.org...

archive.discoverthenetworks.org...

To this day you have "radical Muslims" like Linda Sarsour, whom are "leaders" of the left. Sarsour not only wants to make it legal for "female genital mutilation of girls, and young women in the U.S., but she also wants to implement Sharia law in the U.S., and she is not alone.


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