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Brexit, Today is the Vote!

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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Today the British people get sold down the river.

Our politicians have failed us miserably.....this should be the death knell for the current party political system.
But nothing will change, the status quo must Remain.

That's for sure. So we don't even get a FAKEXIT never mind a BREXIT (LEAVE). Will the people let them get away with it though is the unknown! Will the Lion roar or sleep.

The ongoing BREXIT thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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Live feed from the Graun if anyone's interested

I can't see May pulling this off, Corbyn shouldn't call a GE
nor for a vote of no confidence : It would be too early

Let's not forget, after last weeks hastily added admendment,
May has another 3 days to propose a new "improved" offer
So, that gives her until Friday...

Even then, supposing that the parliament agrees,
i think it should be validated by the people

It's one thing to give a binary choice "In or Out"
in an advisory referendum

But once an acceptable deal has been found,
the people should know what it is they're actually getting

"This is what the deal means, and we're out" Vs "Status quo"
The people might or might not, like the colour of the money !

There should be full disclosure, no fear mongering,
honest assesments and meaningfull debates
Johnson, Raab et Rees Mogg should be barred from participating, and from politics for life

And before the rabid bexiters pile in :
In a country of 60 people million, is it right that less than a third (17 million)
decide the future of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales ?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin



This thread is about this vote.....


I understand that mate, but what more can anyone say other than its inevitably going to be rejected?

As has been said before; May has managed the unthinkable.....she's united both hardened Brexiteers and passionate Remainers, both camps know its a crap and unworkable deal.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:19 PM
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As has been said before; May has managed the unthinkable.....she's united both hardened Brexiteers and passionate Remainers, both camps know its a crap and unworkable deal.


They were just commenting actually on BBC about how amazing it is to see both leave and remain protesters protesting against the deal together outside of parliament.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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May has until Monday to comer up with a plan B. If/when she loses. (According to every reporter I've heard today)
edit on 15-1-2019 by Tortuga because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: Tortuga
May has until Monday to comer up with a plan B. If/when she loses.


What could plan B possibly be though?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Tortuga
May has until Monday to comer up with a plan B. If/when she loses.


What could plan B possibly be though?


She's had over a month to try to make this sh*t sandwich taste better.

I was reading about her being able to call an election herself, in which case parliament would be closed for the Brexit and it would force a no deal.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Tortuga
May has until Monday to comer up with a plan B. If/when she loses.


What could plan B possibly be though?
It should be LEAVE as directed by the people with No Deal! Anything else is treasonous by those in Parliament who prevent that happening!



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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I was reading about her being able to call an election herself, in which case parliament would be closed for the Brexit and it would force a no deal.



Even if that was to happen then the would have to delay Brexit at the very least.

Interesting listening to Farage just now actually....



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Tortuga
May has until Monday to comer up with a plan B. If/when she loses.


What could plan B possibly be though?
It should be LEAVE as directed by the people with No Deal! Anything else is treasonous by those in Parliament who prevent that happening!


Well that is your opinion there is another opinion held by many that would argue that there are other options.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Oh, okay.
The vote will go against the Prime Minister obviously. What happens after that is anyone's guess.
Regarding the flow of conversation you appeared to embrace talk of second referendums with this...

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I think as things go on a Second referendum grows more likely. I am not making a claim about how I would vote just that its becoming much more likely for some very good reasons I think.
...I and others simply engaged with that sentiment.
Tonight's vote is already decided, May will lose it.
...prediction? She will cling on and we will get an extension from the EU to carry on negotiations.
Some fudged deal will be hashed out.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Tortuga




I was reading about her being able to call an election herself, in which case parliament would be closed for the Brexit and it would force a no deal.



Even if that was to happen then the would have to delay Brexit at the very least.

Interesting listening to Farage just now actually....


It was something to do with a no deal and parliament getting a vote on it, by calling a GE she could swerve that and legally Brexit would happen. There's nothing anyone could do to stop that if she did that. I'm not saying she would but they stated she had that as an option.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:25 PM
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In a country of 60 people million, is it right that less than a third (17 million)
decide the future of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales ?


The same can be said about every election we've ever had.

But that's very misleading.

There were approximately 46million people in the UK entitled to vote.
33.5million people voted = 72.2%.
That is a high turnout by UK standards.

It was a straight forward question, as they tend to be in referendums, and the majority voted to leave.

It really is that simple.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

if the pleas for a peoples vote manifests, Deal or No-Deal should be the only considerations.


I may have read you wrong here but I cannot help but think that your statement sidelined this whole snafu in favour of remain.

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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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She will cling on and we will get an extension from the EU to carry on negotiations.


Thats probably the best case scenario for her really but I don't know how much that would change.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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It was something to do with a no deal and parliament getting a vote on it, by calling a GE she could swerve that and legally Brexit would happen.


Another interesting thought.

You mean she calls an election and during it Brexit just happens because the deadline passes.

I guess its possible but I doubt it would happen.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Tortuga




It was something to do with a no deal and parliament getting a vote on it, by calling a GE she could swerve that and legally Brexit would happen.


Another interesting thought.

You mean she calls an election and during it Brexit just happens because the deadline passes.

I guess its possible but I doubt it would happen.


They will know it can happen, that's all she needs. They are terrified of a GE because they are terrified of having to meet the electorate.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

She should open a saloon the silly cow that she is.

Names rather obvious.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

I'm Dyslexic mate, cat spell for Peanuts. LoL



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: Tortuga

Sorry what I meant was I dont think that the would hold a GE and let the Brexit deadline just pass by and we walk into a no-deal.

I do think that a GE is a big possibility I just don't think it's a very good idea.



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