Brexit, Today is the Vote!

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

a reply to: andy06shake

Well looks like we are just going to have to do it ourselves , those with ships available should offer services to government and get good money !

a reply to: sapien82

If there are any serious shortages.



I predict a riot

Because it's not like they have not been told, informed nor and warned time and time again.

Only thing is that's quite possibly what "They" are hoping for in some sense.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: andy06shake

Well looks like we are just going to have to do it ourselves , those with ships available should offer services to government and get good money !

DUNKIRK

a reply to: eletheia

yes exactly If you want something done right do it yourself hahaha
thats a good attitude we can work out the details , every small business can be awarded a contract to muck in an pull through , we can show the goverment how its done!

proving we dont really need them

Hhaha I better go get a nautical license and a hauler
we could seriously cash in!

a reply to: andy06shake

The only food shortages are going to be because the gullible and easily panicked went out and cleared the supermarket shelves. It'll be OK.

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: andy06shake

The only food shortages are going to be because the gullible and easily panicked went out and cleared the supermarket shelves. It'll be OK.

The obesity problem would improve? therefor diabetes in some cases would

cease, and we would would become a leaner fitter healthier nation?......

Win / Win?

a reply to: eletheia

Oh aye, bring on back the ration books.

And let's be doing jumping jacks in the morning eh?

Its all fun and games until potentially millions of peoples lives are at risk.

Our lives not "There's" that is.

a reply to: paraphi

I canny argue there that really peeves me off.

But there might actually be some real shortages.

Hopefully, it will be ok, because the alternative is not worth thinking about.

Still though, should People will die because of Brexit, if and when that happens, someone should be held responsible, thats all i know.

a reply to: andy06shake

we all know full well who should be held responsible ! but will they even see a day in court , I think not !

I mean when you see things like this in the news media you have to ask yourself if they shouldnt already be in jail
and our government up for review !

even Tony Blair with his supposed war crimes , will never see a day in court, just like all the pedophiles they hide under "national security"

Landmark study links Tory Austerity to 120,000 Deaths

originally posted by: andy06shake
But there might actually be some real shortages.

I am sure there will be, but at the end of the day are the Dutch going to allow the lifeblood of their farms rot on the quayside as their farmers go broke?

a reply to: paraphi

One would think not but some ships might be nice to get the stuff here.

Now i ken there are plenty of those to suffice, but will they get to use them?

Supply and demand should sort out the situation, but with that will also come a cost increase, and people are already skint whilst strumming Austerity on the old banjo.

a reply to: paraphi

Aye people need to eat , even the guys who run the ships full of cargo, they will just do what other humans do when something is considered illegal , they go out their way to make ends meet.
Surely they arent just going to stop because our governments havent worked out deals business will still be conducted by businesses surely , they wont just go OH well they cant decide so lets just sit all our stock here until they figure it out, they will just surely keep trading regardless and the government cant figure it all out in tax returns later on , surely thats how it should work .
# ME

Business As Usual for us until you lot work it out in your tax reciepts, remember Tax doesnt have to be Taxing.
Why are we going to stop trading, just because they cant figure out all the trade taxes. Surely its on them as government to do the paper work later , just let us file as normal as business do and you lot work it out amongst yourselves like government are meant to!

BAU
BAU
BREXIT JUST MEANS BAU!

HMRC can figure it all out later surely as thats what they do with business , figure out our taxes based on the trade income, then government can just figure it out with the EU let them have their wee beef and just let us go on trading , its our economy not theirs , Isnt it ?

Isnt against the law to deny a human the right to make a living ? so surely the government cant ban any form of legal trade just because they cant decide a exit deal regarding trade. Surely they allow us to continue as normal whilst they bicker amongst themselves

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: andy06shake
Supply and demand should sort out the situation, but with that will also come a cost increase, and people are already skint whilst strumming Austerity on the old banjo.

Why a cost increase? You realise the EU is a closed market for food imports and this increases the price of goods. Being out of the EU may actually lead to lower prices for food. In fact, the way the EU levies tariffs on food imports e.g. from Africa is often punitive e.g. coffee.

The EU will be worried that after a time and with UK-specific trade agreements, the UK retailers will get be better prices and products from elsewhere.

Okay, i'll just throw this one out there...

What with this :
Labour MPs warn Corbyn: back a second referendum or we quit
and May going through the motions :
EU officials: UK only 'pretending to negotiate' over Brexit impasse
The country is pretty much ungoverned right now

There is a very real possibility of a no-deal
crash-out, bury our heads in the sand
suicidal blunder

With that in mind,
are any contributeurs
thinking of/already started
Stock-piling goods
?

a reply to: paraphi

If there were to be shortages, then supply and demand pretty much dictate some increase in cost as certain goods become scarce and hard to come by.

It won't get that bad though, at least i hope not.

Then again look whos in control?

Don't exactly inspire confidence now do they.....any of them?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

the house of commons voted overwhelmingly on the terms
of article 50 and everyone had the opportunity to
study the detail, give it consideration then vote
accordingly. the commons voted for this.

the commons voted to a set time to expedite the
withdrawl. it also voted to leave on wto terms if
a deal wasn't possible. the commons voted for this.

if fatalities are directly attributed to wto terms.

then you are suggesting the entire house (remember that
an honour-code exists where the vote taken is respected
regardless of who won or lost.) is responsible and has
failed in its duty of care.
i would tread lightly when implying blame for future
deaths/fatalities onto the electorate (those that voted
leave) as it could very well morph into a pogrom of
sorts potentially resulting in deaths/fatalities.

the wto is the safety net for all nations, below that
is the abyss. i suggest those that are anticipating
chaos or actively seeking it should stop and think and
consider one last time before implementing any
contribution towards possible future terror.

we the people were given a referendum.
50% plus 1 would either have taken us
to be absorbed deeper into the eu or
steer us towards a more accountable
parliamentary system which cannot hide
behind eu diktats/obfuscations etc, etc and are
in my humble opinion much, much more
exposed to the electorate. politics is in
for a serious asskick and they know it.

if my country is ever in dire need i assure you
i will be involved on a 24/7/365 basis if required
to assist in keeping things on an even keel whether
it be north, south, east or west within the uk. one
tiny,tiny part in a huge machine. i have historical experience of
government departments and ministry through the
various parties whom have contacted me and requested assistance
pre-brexit. freelance risk mitigation and disaster management has been
my bread and butter for the past 24 years touching utilities, defence, commercial,
private and public sectors.
i'm geared up for different emergency situations

we shall all have to take the rough with the smooth and i wish all
the best regardless of your political affiliations

btw regarding medicines,

“MHRA is aware that companies who market pharmaceuticals in the EU and UK will
need to plan and make decisions
in advance of the UK’s departure from the EU in March 2019.

“We have reached agreement on the terms of an implementation period from March
30 2019 to December 31 2020.
During this time, the UK will no longer be a member state, but market access
will continue on current terms.

www.pharmacy.biz...


as for food i will leave that to the gods lol.

f.

a reply to: fakedirt

It's certainly food for thought, then again you canny eat ideas or Gods for that matter.

a reply to: andy06shake

Give it a rest with the anti Tory propaganda, will you? Why does the left have to go all nasty? Seems to me that Labour and it's supporters have a bit of a problem with women in power - look at all the hatred for Thatcher and now all this vilification of May.

So, now people are going to die in their masses because of Brexit? And it's all going to be because the Tories are evil?

Get a grip, please.