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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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Meanwhile..........

AT DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB




posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: toms54

Aggressiveness does not equal manliness.

Criminals are basically looking for an easy way out. They are weak.

The truly masculine and strong carry families when money is tight and work is hard. They don't look for the easy payout that might hurt someone else. They think of consequences and are quiet, long suffering and self controlled. They cannot be bought.

They WILL do what is RIGHT, rather than what feels nice.

I think that the advertisement will offend only those whose philosophy of life and ethical stance is for the selfish and the easy.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Boadicea

Actually I replied to you and not Krakatoa because I'm sure you're much better looking, so if I'm going to get into a pissing contest the choice was obvious.


Well, far be it for me to derail the thread, so I'll just agree and say "thank you"


If you're into that sorta thing, you know.


Sorry... flattery will get you nowhere!



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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I don't care if nearly this entire page is off topic. Just keep it civil or the mods will attack.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: toms54

So you see Toms, it's all due to perspective.


I don't even know what the heck y'all are talking about at this point.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Krakatoa


You still do not understand my point do you???


Did you notice the freaking question marks all over my reply to you??? How am I supposed to understand it if you refuse to explain it???

Unlike you, I am not and have not made any assumptions. I have asked you repeatedly to explain, clarify, distinguish, etc.

But when I ask a clear and direct question -- repeatedly -- and you refuse to answer that clear and direct question with a clear and direct answer, and ESPECIALLY when you slink to the depths of insulting me, then it is crystal clear that you cannot defend your answer.


I have openly said that bullying is not part of manhood, didn't I? However, boys fighting IS part of that manhood experience. Whether you or other women like that or not. It is the cold hard truth.


Get over yourself and stop the mansplaining. Men don't live in a vacuum. I have brothers. I have a husband. I have raised a son. I was the KoolAid mom where ALL the boys in the neighborhood hung out all summer. There is a very big difference between roughhousing and bullying. I knew the difference and I made damn sure that every kid who walked through my door understood the difference. I also told them to suck it up when one got hurt during roughhousing... but if I saw any bullying, they had to deal with me. I showed them what real bullying is, and then gave them the choice of who they were going to be.

I was able to make the distinctions, explain those distinctions, demonstrate those distinctions, and demand better. So don't blow me off because I'm a woman who doesn't understand the cold hard truth. If YOU cannot step up to the same plate, then I'm a better "man" than you are.


I see that you know the difference between bullying and roughhousing (a valuable male bonding experience). However, there are others here that do not make that distinction, and that is the target of my discussion points. There are valid times when two boys fighting needs to be left to happen, and monitored to ensure no serious harm is done. It is a teaching exercise in standing up for oneself, and a form of building respect for other males.

Nothing that I said has supported or condoned bullying here, nothing.

What I have said is that the radical feminist movement has systematically attempted to remove that part of a boy growing up since ALL violent behavior is seen as wrong. Even those that involve a boy fighting back against bullying. The alternative is to rely upon the government (i.e. school system) to defend yourself now. It does not reach personal responsibility and defending oneself (or even others) when confronted with a bully.

How is deepening the reliance upon others to defend you a positive experience when it is labeled "toxic"? The problem is the good is being thrown out with the bath water in this case. Which IMO is so wrong and damaging to a boy trying understand his place and how to handle himself when confronted with this type of abuse. Is a violent reaction the first solution, hell no. But it should be in the list of possibilities when it is justified (which is part of the mentoring done by an adult male role model).

Swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the pother is not a solution.




What lessons does the art of karate teach us? For one, self-control.



Karate is not a game. It is not a sport. It is not even a system of self-defense. Karate is half physical exercise and half spiritual. The karateist who has given the necessary years of exercise and meditation is a tranquil person. He is unafraid. He can even be calm in a burning building. Mas Oyama




Karate is, Not to hit someone, Neither to be defeated, But to avoid trouble. Konishi Yasuhiro

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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Boadicea



Thank you!

Right back atcha!



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Boadicea



Thank you!

Right back atcha!


All the boys hung out at my house too and that was while hubby was at work or sleeping...it was mostly on me.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Do you like to go commando too?

To keep things on-topic, do you shave it?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Krakatoa


You still do not understand my point do you???


Did you notice the freaking question marks all over my reply to you??? How am I supposed to understand it if you refuse to explain it???

Unlike you, I am not and have not made any assumptions. I have asked you repeatedly to explain, clarify, distinguish, etc.

But when I ask a clear and direct question -- repeatedly -- and you refuse to answer that clear and direct question with a clear and direct answer, and ESPECIALLY when you slink to the depths of insulting me, then it is crystal clear that you cannot defend your answer.


I have openly said that bullying is not part of manhood, didn't I? However, boys fighting IS part of that manhood experience. Whether you or other women like that or not. It is the cold hard truth.


Get over yourself and stop the mansplaining. Men don't live in a vacuum. I have brothers. I have a husband. I have raised a son. I was the KoolAid mom where ALL the boys in the neighborhood hung out all summer. There is a very big difference between roughhousing and bullying. I knew the difference and I made damn sure that every kid who walked through my door understood the difference. I also told them to suck it up when one got hurt during roughhousing... but if I saw any bullying, they had to deal with me. I showed them what real bullying is, and then gave them the choice of who they were going to be.

I was able to make the distinctions, explain those distinctions, demonstrate those distinctions, and demand better. So don't blow me off because I'm a woman who doesn't understand the cold hard truth. If YOU cannot step up to the same plate, then I'm a better "man" than you are.


I see that you know the difference between bullying and roughhousing (a valuable male bonding experience). However, there are others here that do not make that distinction, and that is the target of my discussion points. There are valid times when two boys fighting needs to be left to happen, and monitored to ensure no serious harm is done. It is a teaching exercise in standing up for oneself, and a form of building respect for other males.

Nothing that I said has supported or condoned bullying here, nothing.

What I have said is that the radical feminist movement has systematically attempted to remove that part of a boy growing up since ALL violent behavior is seen as wrong. Even those that involve a boy fighting back against bullying. The alternative is to rely upon the government (i.e. school system) to defend yourself now. It does not reach personal responsibility and defending oneself (or even others) when confronted with a bully.

How is deepening the reliance upon others to defend you a positive experience when it is labeled "toxic"? The problem is the good is being thrown out with the bath water in this case. Which IMO is so wrong and damaging to a boy trying understand his place and how to handle himself when confronted with this type of abuse. Is a violent reaction the first solution, hell no. But it should be in the list of possibilities when it is justified (which is part of the mentoring done by an adult male role model).

Swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the pother is not a solution.




What lessons does the art of karate teach us? For one, self-control.



Karate is not a game. It is not a sport. It is not even a system of self-defense. Karate is half physical exercise and half spiritual. The karateist who has given the necessary years of exercise and meditation is a tranquil person. He is unafraid. He can even be calm in a burning building. Mas Oyama


Non-sequitor?

It has nothing to do with being a man. Can it be used as a tool to help with self control, yes, of course. But, what is the underlying defense strategy taught? Is it all non-violent acts? All defensive,? No. It does teach tactics to incapacitate an attacker. That includes violent actions. But, you stated that violence was NEVER acceptable.

So, which is it for you?

See, you cannot advocate both based upon you definitive statement prior that it is never acceptable.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Boadicea

Do you like to go commando too?

To keep things on-topic, do you shave it?


Do you?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

"But whereas you are perceiving the commercial of painting all men in a bad light, I am not seeing that. I never saw the Gillette commercial as painting all men in a bad light, much less thinking that the commercials I referred to were painting all women or all married couples in that bad light. Even if they were, I know better than to think it possible to paint any individuals in any group in the same light -- good or bad.

Don't you think most people know -- simply by virtue of their own experience -- that not all men are abusers or bullies?"

Yeah, I got the point.

Where the women's movement is now I think is they're getting past telling women to be men and now they're telling men to be women.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Krakatoa


You still do not understand my point do you???


Did you notice the freaking question marks all over my reply to you??? How am I supposed to understand it if you refuse to explain it???

Unlike you, I am not and have not made any assumptions. I have asked you repeatedly to explain, clarify, distinguish, etc.

But when I ask a clear and direct question -- repeatedly -- and you refuse to answer that clear and direct question with a clear and direct answer, and ESPECIALLY when you slink to the depths of insulting me, then it is crystal clear that you cannot defend your answer.


I have openly said that bullying is not part of manhood, didn't I? However, boys fighting IS part of that manhood experience. Whether you or other women like that or not. It is the cold hard truth.


Get over yourself and stop the mansplaining. Men don't live in a vacuum. I have brothers. I have a husband. I have raised a son. I was the KoolAid mom where ALL the boys in the neighborhood hung out all summer. There is a very big difference between roughhousing and bullying. I knew the difference and I made damn sure that every kid who walked through my door understood the difference. I also told them to suck it up when one got hurt during roughhousing... but if I saw any bullying, they had to deal with me. I showed them what real bullying is, and then gave them the choice of who they were going to be.

I was able to make the distinctions, explain those distinctions, demonstrate those distinctions, and demand better. So don't blow me off because I'm a woman who doesn't understand the cold hard truth. If YOU cannot step up to the same plate, then I'm a better "man" than you are.


I see that you know the difference between bullying and roughhousing (a valuable male bonding experience). However, there are others here that do not make that distinction, and that is the target of my discussion points. There are valid times when two boys fighting needs to be left to happen, and monitored to ensure no serious harm is done. It is a teaching exercise in standing up for oneself, and a form of building respect for other males.

Nothing that I said has supported or condoned bullying here, nothing.

What I have said is that the radical feminist movement has systematically attempted to remove that part of a boy growing up since ALL violent behavior is seen as wrong. Even those that involve a boy fighting back against bullying. The alternative is to rely upon the government (i.e. school system) to defend yourself now. It does not reach personal responsibility and defending oneself (or even others) when confronted with a bully.

How is deepening the reliance upon others to defend you a positive experience when it is labeled "toxic"? The problem is the good is being thrown out with the bath water in this case. Which IMO is so wrong and damaging to a boy trying understand his place and how to handle himself when confronted with this type of abuse. Is a violent reaction the first solution, hell no. But it should be in the list of possibilities when it is justified (which is part of the mentoring done by an adult male role model).

Swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the pother is not a solution.




What lessons does the art of karate teach us? For one, self-control.



Karate is not a game. It is not a sport. It is not even a system of self-defense. Karate is half physical exercise and half spiritual. The karateist who has given the necessary years of exercise and meditation is a tranquil person. He is unafraid. He can even be calm in a burning building. Mas Oyama


Non-sequitor?

It has nothing to do with being a man. Can it be used as a tool to help with self control, yes, of course. But, what is the underlying defense strategy taught? Is it all non-violent acts? All defensive,? No. It does teach tactics to incapacitate an attacker. That includes violent actions. But, you stated that violence was NEVER acceptable.

So, which is it for you?

See, you cannot advocate both based upon you definitive statement prior that it is never acceptable.




You are twisting again. I didn't say that, I said my husband, my son and I agreed that bullying is not acceptable.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Boadicea

"But whereas you are perceiving the commercial of painting all men in a bad light, I am not seeing that. I never saw the Gillette commercial as painting all men in a bad light, much less thinking that the commercials I referred to were painting all women or all married couples in that bad light. Even if they were, I know better than to think it possible to paint any individuals in any group in the same light -- good or bad.

Don't you think most people know -- simply by virtue of their own experience -- that not all men are abusers or bullies?"

Yeah, I got the point.

Where the women's movement is now I think is they're getting past telling women to be men and now they're telling men to be women.


Nobody is telling anybody that, back on topic, Gillette is telling us that bullying is wrong and good men should step up and stop it. That's it.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Commando yes. Particularly on first dates.

Shave no. You?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut

I'm just trying to decide which razor blade to buy.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: InTheLight

Commando yes. Particularly on first dates.

Shave no. You?


Yes, only on my honeymoon.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight


Thank god they told us it was wrong.

I mean it's not like we knew that on our own.

Rape still bad?

Might need a corporation to make a commercial.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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Do you guys like shaved or not? On men or women? How about pit hair? I think this is a good topic to talk in this thread.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Krakatoa


You still do not understand my point do you???


Did you notice the freaking question marks all over my reply to you??? How am I supposed to understand it if you refuse to explain it???

Unlike you, I am not and have not made any assumptions. I have asked you repeatedly to explain, clarify, distinguish, etc.

But when I ask a clear and direct question -- repeatedly -- and you refuse to answer that clear and direct question with a clear and direct answer, and ESPECIALLY when you slink to the depths of insulting me, then it is crystal clear that you cannot defend your answer.


I have openly said that bullying is not part of manhood, didn't I? However, boys fighting IS part of that manhood experience. Whether you or other women like that or not. It is the cold hard truth.


Get over yourself and stop the mansplaining. Men don't live in a vacuum. I have brothers. I have a husband. I have raised a son. I was the KoolAid mom where ALL the boys in the neighborhood hung out all summer. There is a very big difference between roughhousing and bullying. I knew the difference and I made damn sure that every kid who walked through my door understood the difference. I also told them to suck it up when one got hurt during roughhousing... but if I saw any bullying, they had to deal with me. I showed them what real bullying is, and then gave them the choice of who they were going to be.

I was able to make the distinctions, explain those distinctions, demonstrate those distinctions, and demand better. So don't blow me off because I'm a woman who doesn't understand the cold hard truth. If YOU cannot step up to the same plate, then I'm a better "man" than you are.


I see that you know the difference between bullying and roughhousing (a valuable male bonding experience). However, there are others here that do not make that distinction, and that is the target of my discussion points. There are valid times when two boys fighting needs to be left to happen, and monitored to ensure no serious harm is done. It is a teaching exercise in standing up for oneself, and a form of building respect for other males.

Nothing that I said has supported or condoned bullying here, nothing.

What I have said is that the radical feminist movement has systematically attempted to remove that part of a boy growing up since ALL violent behavior is seen as wrong. Even those that involve a boy fighting back against bullying. The alternative is to rely upon the government (i.e. school system) to defend yourself now. It does not reach personal responsibility and defending oneself (or even others) when confronted with a bully.

How is deepening the reliance upon others to defend you a positive experience when it is labeled "toxic"? The problem is the good is being thrown out with the bath water in this case. Which IMO is so wrong and damaging to a boy trying understand his place and how to handle himself when confronted with this type of abuse. Is a violent reaction the first solution, hell no. But it should be in the list of possibilities when it is justified (which is part of the mentoring done by an adult male role model).

Swinging the pendulum from one extreme to the pother is not a solution.




What lessons does the art of karate teach us? For one, self-control.



Karate is not a game. It is not a sport. It is not even a system of self-defense. Karate is half physical exercise and half spiritual. The karateist who has given the necessary years of exercise and meditation is a tranquil person. He is unafraid. He can even be calm in a burning building. Mas Oyama


Non-sequitor?

It has nothing to do with being a man. Can it be used as a tool to help with self control, yes, of course. But, what is the underlying defense strategy taught? Is it all non-violent acts? All defensive,? No. It does teach tactics to incapacitate an attacker. That includes violent actions. But, you stated that violence was NEVER acceptable.

So, which is it for you?

See, you cannot advocate both based upon you definitive statement prior that it is never acceptable.




You are twisting again. I didn't say that, I said my husband, my son and I agreed that bullying is not acceptable.


Here is the conversation, to refresh your memory in contrext:

I stated,




You still do not understand my point do you???

I have openly said that bullying is not part of manhood, didn't I?

However, boys fighting IS part of that manhood experience. Whether you or other women like that or not. It is the cold hard truth.


And you responded:



And the cold hard truth is that that type of behaviour is not acceptable and should be stopped - the same when girls fight, which they do too.


So, boys fighting as a male bonding (i.e. roughhousing) and as a form of building respect is not OK, but using a taught form of violent actions is OK?

As I stated, you simply do not understand what I mean, because you have never been through it at all. Talking to your hubby and son is not an equivalent since I guarantee you they are not going to tell you the truth for fear of being labeled toxic by you.




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