Federal Government Employees Working For Free is a Hyped-up LIE.

originally posted by: tensetek
a reply to: TinySickTears

They will be paid immediately upon reopening. I can think of many examples of this being done to the common worker out there. For example, if you're hurt on the job, does the worker compensation happen immediately? No it does not. If you go for social security income you have to wait sometimes years. Though they will BACKPAY from the original file date but where is you're outcry for all those people waiting for their money? Teachers in LA are on strike now too, what about their money? ]

cool
in all your examples the people are not working

its not the same thing no matter how much you all doing

on comp
waiting for SS
on strike

none of those the same as working and not getting paid

They missed 1 paycheck a few days ago...

If they are in crisis mode now. They better save better.

If anything this is showing that maybe 25% of those jobs are not needed.

Do these people want a Gov check for life? Then hush up and wait it out.

Youre Attititude on this sucks. What about will be paid = not paid/slavery/indentured servitude. Are government jobs not filled with plenty of comfy perks? it's motivation to end the shutdown.

I got a phone call and an email from a "government shutdown victim" selling a grand piano for 50k. A high end luxury item most of us in the US will never afford. This government shutdown "victim" as they called it had been able to own and thinks they are entitled to 50k for. Please. End the government royalty beaurocrats. That guy should go longer without his next paycheck.

a reply to: underwerks

My best friend is air traffic control. It sucks he has to go through this. On that note, when he and every other government worker signed off on this job was told that if the government shut down, this would happen. They signed on, and it happened. They didn’t have to agree to the terms but they did. Yes it sucks but it’s the way it is. I am not trying to defend anyone here. Just stating a fact of life. Your signature is golden.

a reply to: TinySickTears

What amazes me is you guys still do not understand it's congresses fault they can of spending bill all they got to do is get it to pass in Senate with 2/3rds majority. So it falls on Senate not potus.

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: TinySickTears

What amazes me is you guys still do not understand it's congresses fault they can of spending bill all they got to do is get it to pass in Senate with 2/3rds majority. So it falls on Senate not potus.

It falls on trump cause I watched the meeting and I heard him say he would be proud to # it down and he takes responsibility.

So even when he takes the blame you defend?

There is nothing to defend.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Missing rent and mortgage payments can be problematic. As can running up credit card debt.

Simplest solution, a federal law that provides, in situations like this, for a temporary moratorium on mortgage, credit card and other debt obligation payment schedules, until the situation is resolved, then all obligations are brought up to date with a single payment (no interest), and the debt obligation payment schedule is updated to reflect the new end-date.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

Faced with a potentially indefinite shutdown, the unions have turned to the courts for relief. The American Federation of Government Employees has filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration alleging that by requiring employees to work without pay, the government is in violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act, a 1938 law that mandates a minimum wage and overtime pay both to public- and private-sector workers.

So give them a choice... work with deferred pay until it is resolved, or get furloughed without pay, with the guarantee that you get your job back when the situation is resolved, but no 'back pay'.

I agree that deferred pay is not the same as being paid according to the normal schedule, but it is also certainly not the same as not being paid.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
oh now the unions are all left deep state blah blah

Deep state? Nah... Leftist? Obviously...

Also, even the great socialist President FDR was opposed to public sector unions.

Public Sector Unions are a cancer on society, and should be forever abolished.

Wow this thread is unbelievable. This whole I'm all right so I don't give a #, seems to be an attitude ever increasing in society. Trying to defend what must be a horrible situation for so many people,is just cold.

originally posted by: grey580
I know a TSA worker that is at the point that he can't go into work because he is running out of money for transportation.

They just missed their first check for christs sake.

Sorry, but anyone who doesn't have any savings whatsoever - preferably 2-6 months of living expenses - gets what they deserve, if they get laid off, or... forced to work for deferred pay.

originally posted by: mikell
I went 16 weeks once because of a paper screwup and it was tough but i was a single person so the creditors didn't believe me.

? what does being single have to do with whether or not they believed you?

a reply to: tanstaafl

Not everyone is lucky enough to have that.

And for some having that savings is next to impossible because they do not earn enough.

The TSA worker I know had his savings drained recently because his daughter was in the hospital twice.

You know. Instead of blaming people for not having enough money. Maybe you should be showing a little more compassion.

originally posted by: soundguy
And you should be thanking Democrat’s for that as they passed the measure allowing it to happen . It might be worth noting (for anyone who isn’t a rwnj) that it was only republicans voted against the measure. Not surprising. When you need someone to have your back don’t count on the republicans.

So, now you're saying they should be paid for work they did not do?

originally posted by: Annee
Me thinks you've never had medical issues.

So, they lack a financial clue and they lack health insurance? Maybe if Obamacare hadn't happened they could afford it?

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: Annee

Oh, no...I have a severe and chronic medical issue actually. Causes me to live in severe pain every single day.

Tried CBD (cannabis) oil? Rare earth magnets?

originally posted by: jimmyx
this whole shutdown is ALL CAUSED by republicans...period.

Depends on your POV I guess.

I say Pelosi/Schumer caused it by their refusal to agree to what they have agreed to in the past.

.....sen. McConnell will not bring it to the floor for a vote....

It is pointless because Trump has said he will veto it and they don't have the votes to override his veto.

both houses agreed to a deal AND trump agreed with the deal back in dec 2018....until loud mouths on FOX called trump out on it, and only then did he back down.

Source please?

.....trump is so weak, he can't even stand up to commentators on 1 single TV station.

Weak? Looks like he is standing pretty strong on the issue of border security to me.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: tanstaafl

Not everyone is lucky enough to have that.

Excuse me, but luck had nothing to do with it. I scrimped and saved and went without for quite some time to make sure my family wouldn't suffer if something like this happened to me.

And for some having that savings is next to impossible because they do not earn enough.

Bullsnip. They are not willing to do without certain things in order to make it happen. Do without cable TV, the brand new cars, houses they can't really afford. etc etc ad nauseum.

The TSA worker I know had his savings drained recently because his daughter was in the hospital twice.

Obamacare not working out for them, eh? Well, there are other options (like Medi-Share), much cheaper and better coverage.

Sorry, try again...

You know. Instead of blaming people for not having enough money. Maybe you should be showing a little more compassion.

I am compassionate. I think it sucks for families of people who are too short sighted and lack the discipline and will to have an emergency fund to fall back on when something like this happens - especially when they had to sign to acknowledge it has happened and will happen again some day.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I think that your last post there proves that you lack compassion and understanding.

Please try to avoid victim blaming in the future.

originally posted by: carewemust
January 14, 2019
In reality, some people are only paid once a month, and others, even less frequently. But eventually, their agreed upon compensation is received.


-CareWeMust

Omg, you're so full of it, I don't think you even believe your own crap any more. Or it's hard to keep the lies all square with so many of them being thrown at us?

Why didn't you look up the laws before you lied to us about this?

Department of Labor

Even less frequently than a month? According to the federal law, no payments can take longer than 30 days. Most States enforce more rigorous standards, such as no more than 12 to 16 days.

Stop trying to lie to us to fit your preconceived bias into a cute little propaganda package. I've simply had enough with the amount of disinformation being allowed on here on ATS. It's like no one is working here, checking this stuff and moderating for propaganda. Free for all.