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Right wing domestic terrorism

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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: SKEPTEK

I must have missed that OP. Which thread was it? It certainly wasn't this one.




posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Sort of like I didn't associate all blacks with domestic terrorism?

Carry on with your hate Whitey narrative.



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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: SKEPTEK

Let me guess, you're one of those people that uses the phrase "white genocide" unironically.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




Here we go again...


Finally, our socialism expert is in tha house!



First of all, since when is "The politically conservative Daily Caller News Foundation" wikipedia?...


Since Tucker and Fox-TV are good enough to kick off threads with? Remember some of your own maybe?



Not to mention the "fact' that for a while now "the left" has been labeling anyone who is not "left-wing" as a "right-wing extremist." Such people labeled as such include Ron Paul, and Judge Andrew Napolitano among many others who for daring to "criticize Obama's policies.


Nobody on Ceres cares about the tears you shed for the labels someone gave your poor friend Ron. Have a cookie.



Statistics can be manipulated to whatever you want them to say.


Sure. Vague platitudes and hysteria are always a great excuse to ignore some facts. But... still... you're sitting on a pile of secret intel which would debunk said statistics instantly? No? It's all nothing but lies, right? Right? ... Right?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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You know how I said I think its possible that one day we might turn on the news and hear that the bomber was a member of a site called Abovetopscret.com

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a reply to: SKEPTEK



Carry on with your hate Whitey narrative.



Posts like this are exactly what I think thats a possibility.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

well, if it makes you feel better, I condemn the extremists of any group. White supremacists are idiots. The amount of melanin in your skin has no bearing on a person other than outward appearance. But to act as if Antifa isn't the same kind of lunatic, is disingenuous.

Do you officially and publicly condemn Antifa? (I don't honestly think your opinion, nor mine has anything to do with anything, but you did bring all that up.)



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

... and off they go, killing more whites on their epic quest to save the rest of us white breads. Meanwhile air pollution alone killed appr. 7 million people in 2012, but here we are: amidst a bunch of confused morons in twisted pants, outraging against the outrage

It's suicidal genocide of the obvious kind, but they can't stop stirring up their Bollocks for a brief second, and imagine themselves sitting at the giving end with their Big Corp bullsh!t jobs and Amazon deliveries. Uber-culture my ass...


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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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What the left calls right wing extremism they call legitimate opposition when they commit any acts of violence. Bill Ayers is a great example. He went total terrorist and he is some professor somewhere and hailed as a hero of the left. Heck, the right doesn't even have to commit acts of violence for their actions to be labeled terrorism. Just ask the SPLC.. Just a thought is considered an act of terrorism.

A statue depicting our history is considered an act of mental terrorism to the snowflakes.. Cry me a river over the right wing terrorism claims. The right has nothing on the left where evil is concerned.

With the left, ISIS is emboldened and they are the biggest terrorists in the world today.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
You know how I said I think its possible that one day we might turn on the news and hear that the bomber was a member of a site called Abovetopscret.com

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a reply to: SKEPTEK



Carry on with your hate Whitey narrative.



Posts like this are exactly what I think thats a possibility.


The proof is in 99/9%of poster failed to recnognise or admit rught wing terrorism exists in the US and has been a major threat the Europe for 100 years - they're more interested in talking about Antiffor the billtionth time and pretending Nazis were leftwing.

Must be radicalasied or blind no rot to see where going either political extremes and actins leads. Pwople are comparing that bike lock twat to Andres Brevick, Trumps ex advisor (mega Nazi) wars in Europe against police and military trying to launch coupse etc... severeal hundred white vans full of nail bombs are set to be launched on Europe to spark race war by white supremacists according to filmed footage and intel reports. www.renegadetribune.com... Golden Dawn nearly took over Greece attacking schools, judges, courts, huan rights lawuers, kids, politicans et...

Shame things as serious as this can't bedbated/discussed in any meaningful way.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


The difficulty is that so many people find it difficult to separate the ideological belief from the actual act itself so when you talk about right-wing terrorism its seen as bashing the right-wing when really nothing could be further from the truth.


I think the labels are killing us - the labeling and just the language of it all. People are always up in arms about identity politics, but identity is everything to each of us. It's instinctive to want to protect yourself and your own

I wish there was a way we could address things like bigotry without all of us becoming bigots in the process. In the past few years I think it's begun to feel like we are all under attack

It makes it impossible to agree on a common threat or enemy



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Agreed, it's not an attack on the right or playing hyperbole politics, it's about the population standing together for the best of the country etc..there's terrorists on the right and left (see Europe for example of real ones, not fake us Antifa nonsense) both sides nee to come together to comdemn it instead of entrenching it at every opportunity (though guess ATS is a lost cause as it's just meme's, trash us politics, no research, discussion and exchange of ideas - 95% of members are set in their ways regardless of evidence and new findings.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 05:50 PM
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...it's about the population standing together for the best of the country etc..there's terrorists on the right and left


Exactly. Because of the terms right and left there's no way to identify those people that are a threat to all of us. They're neither left or right in a way that we understand ourselves to be - but we can't have a civil, rational discussion about any of it. We end up propping up sides that have nothing to do with our real life views because of labels that are meaningless



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

If you want to have an objective discussion using real facts I am all for it. You will have to start over though...

According to your sources white supremacists and the like are the biggest domestic terror threat to this nation and have committed more crimes than any other group. The statistics your sources quoted are 49 deaths between 2000 and 2016.

Omar Mir Seddique Mateen killed 49 people by himself in Orlando at the Pulse nightclub. I am fairly certain Mr. Mateen is not a white supremacist, having claimed allegiance to ISIS and all. So one person balanced out the books for every so-called white supremacist group combined in the most heavily armed nation on Earth.

Now lets add in the San Bernardino shooters just for fun. That is another 14 people dead.

This white supremacist terrorist rhetoric is nothing fake news bs meant to divide an already unstable nation of sheep.

STOP FALLING FOR THE BS AND LOOK AT THE FACTS. THE REAL FACTS.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

What criteria is being used to determine the political ideology of these domestic terrorists? What constitutes 'right wing' in the context of the label in your OPs title?

What is acceptably right-leaning, and what is unacceptably right-leaning such that you are now a terrorist?

Are these domestic terrorists verbalizing thinkers or are they violent weapon users?

Who is drawing the line to determine who is and who isn't a domestic terrorist?, what criteria are they using? Who is making these decisions?



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 06:06 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

What criteria is being used to determine the political ideology of these domestic terrorists? What constitutes 'right wing' in the context of the label in your OPs title?

What is acceptably right-leaning, and what is unacceptably right-leaning such that you are now a terrorist?

Are these domestic terrorists verbalizing thinkers or are they violent weapon users?

Who is drawing the line to determine who is and who isn't a domestic terrorist?, what criteria are they using? Who is making these decisions?


Democrat party leadership and the splc.
That’s who decides.

Insane right? An extremist hate group deciding who qualifies as an extremist hate group.

Kinda like Hitler did.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 06:19 PM
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This white supremacist terrorist rhetoric is nothing fake news bs meant to divide an already unstable nation of sheep.


Number of far-right terror attacks increases as overall deaths from terrorism fall, report finds


Far-right political terrorism is on the rise in western Europe and north America, a report on global terror has cautioned.

Right-wing groups and individuals killed 66 people between 2013 and 2017, with 17 deaths and 47 of those attacks occurring last year, according to the 2018 Global Terrorism Index.

“There has been a real and significant increase in far-right terrorist activity, particularly in the last two years,” Tom Morgan, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Economics and Peace, which produced the report, told The Independent.


I have to agree that we are an unstable nation of sheep. What I don't understand is why some consistently fail to denounce right wing extremism and instead try to make it about something else. It exists
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion

Finally, our socialism expert is in tha house!


Finally, our socialism/communism non-expert, and who never experienced either system, is here perhaps trying to sell once more "socialism or even communism..."



originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Since Tucker and Fox-TV are good enough to kick off threads with? Remember some of your own maybe?


What the heck are you talking about? Perhaps your should try to write responses that actually make sense and are logical.



originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Nobody on Ceres cares about the tears you shed for the labels someone gave your poor friend Ron. Have a cookie.


Of course you don't care, it's the "left-wing authoritarian" in you showing your true colors.


originally posted by: PublicOpinion
Sure. Vague platitudes and hysteria are always a great excuse to ignore some facts. But... still... you're sitting on a pile of secret intel which would debunk said statistics instantly? No? It's all nothing but lies, right? Right? ... Right?


I didn't know that posting "facts" were "platitudes and hysteria..." Must be a "left-wing let's ignore the facts" illness. Today the left is plagued with lots of "illnesses' that are nothing more than "platitudes and hysteria..."



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


The difficulty is that so many people find it difficult to separate the ideological belief from the actual act itself so when you talk about right-wing terrorism its seen as bashing the right-wing when really nothing could be further from the truth.


I think the labels are killing us - the labeling and just the language of it all. People are always up in arms about identity politics, but identity is everything to each of us. It's instinctive to want to protect yourself and your own

I wish there was a way we could address things like bigotry without all of us becoming bigots in the process. In the past few years I think it's begun to feel like we are all under attack

It makes it impossible to agree on a common threat or enemy


While we often don't share the same perception and ideologies in politics (and that's perfectly ok) I believe you're spot on with this statement. It bugs the hell out of me to have to generalize and label a certain group in order to make a point in a discussion. Although I use the terms lefty and righty, it has more to do with a lack of better words or definition than anything else. It certainly isn't how I truly feel about all the people on the left or right. Identity politics are extremely damaging and divisive and until we as a society acknowledge this and strive together to correct it, it will continue to only get worse.

By some twisted design, we've divided ourselves into all these splinter cells where we as a society have little to no unity. There's a lot of truth into the saying "United we stand, divided we fall". TPTB know this damn well but yet choose to exploit it every chance they get. Hence the situation that we as a society are currently in.

The majority of people on this site, regardless of political affiliation, would probably have a great time hanging out together shooting pool and having a few brews. Identity politics suck and nothing good ever seems to come of them.
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posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

It exists, but it is not that bad comparatively. Your sources indicate roughly 3 people per year for 16 years died as a result of right wing terror. Every death is tragic and should have not happened but that is far from the screaming in the streets kind of statistics some on the left seem to think we are dealing with.

Further, anyone who dares to suggest they are white and proud is immediately lumped in to that extremist group. Being white is very nearly a crime in this country. Personally, I feel that many people whom have been branded as supremacists are just proud of their heritage and trying to preserve it against an ever growing opposition hell bent on removing any sign of their existence. Rewrite the history books, tear down the statues, ignore the facts, and obey.

Some people called supremacists are just fighting for freedom. The same freedom so many others take for granted and abuse. Anyone who truly is a white supremacist and is dangerous should be dealt with swiftly and severely. And I say the exact same for anyone who is not white and dangerous. We can fight domestic terror without limiting it to one skin color. In fact the last thing we should do is limit the scope of the battle. Domestic terror can come from anyone. All domestic terrorists should be treated the same, regardless of skin color.



posted on Jan, 15 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: FilthyUSMonkey

What criteria is being used to determine the political ideology of these domestic terrorists? What constitutes 'right wing' in the context of the label in your OPs title?

What is acceptably right-leaning, and what is unacceptably right-leaning such that you are now a terrorist?

Are these domestic terrorists verbalizing thinkers or are they violent weapon users?

Who is drawing the line to determine who is and who isn't a domestic terrorist?, what criteria are they using? Who is making these decisions?


I think about what you said frequently. Each individuals interpretation and definition is going to always differ to some degree. There's so many overlapping issues nowadays, instead of them being addressed individually and resolution sought as a group, it's easier to throw them in one body bag, label it, ship it and and maybe sort it later.



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