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So, This Shutdown... How has it Affected You?

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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: peacefulpete
Dude, I was right in my statement, and you validated it yourself.


If you want to complain, like the useless TSA, that inspections weren't going on even though the inspectors were back that's your prerogative.


I don't know why I thought I had a better impression of you, in the past. This thread you're just bantering.

What you keep talking about is the reduction of safety inspections, which I stated, then you argued it, then you validated it.

I could care less that some of the safety inspections are reinstated, because they were obviously reduced before that, which was my point.

I also doubt that ALL airport & airplane & passenger safety measures are reinstated, but that's not really the point, and you really don't have a point at all.




posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:29 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck

originally posted by: justdust
a reply to: peacefulpete I very seldom post negative things, But I'm going to make an exception for you. You are very rude. To Bad your parents didn't raise you to know better.

They're likely still working on that. Give 'em time.

TheRedneck


Except I replied to that post, about 12 hours before you just commented on me not commenting... duhhhhhhhhh lol



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: peacefulpete


Today's America is not equivalent to 1930's Germany.

Well, you got that one right.


And you didn't even answer the question. How do you reconcile your own grandfathers devoting their lives to killing Nazi's and destroying their ideology... with your modern embrace of Nazi ideology? How do you reconcile that with your own family history against Nazi ideology?

You know, hitting the 'quote' link and then typing is different from actually reading what was said.

Try to stay on topic, blah,blah, blah (I'm getting good at this!
)

TheRedneck


Well you never answered the question. Didn't your family fight in WWII? Against white supremacy? How do you reconcile it with your own embrace of Trump's white supremacy?

This is the 3rd or 4th time I asked you, right?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: peacefulpete

The answer is NOT having a Hitler-wannabe, creating concentration camps for children that he has kidnapped from their family, for no reason but abject hatred, racism, ignorance, cruelty.

To be more specific, Obama managed to run the country for EIGHT YEARS without doing anything like this.

So, Dotard could have continued the exact same policies as Obama, without any blame or criticism.


First, you need to back off your burners a little. To suggest "Hitler", "concentration camps", " hatred, racism, ignorance, cruelty" does not help your point at all even if you have a point, which you don't.

What do you do with 40,000 undocumented people per month that now bring their kids with around a 250% increase? Do you take their information and release them into the public with nothing?

Once again what do we do with limited resources that can easily get overwhelmed. Would not the big goal be that they do not come here in the first place?

It was under Obama that created the whole idea for these people to bring their kids as leverage in getting in the country in the first place. His 8 years didn't help the situation at all...we still have 15 million here and growing and we still have all the bad that goes with it too.





Actually those are my points. I don't like having a president who is a retarded wannabe-Hitler, with thousands of Hispanic kids imprisoned in concentration camps.

The answer of what Trump should have done, at worst, he should have continued the same policies before him, and then we wouldn't be talking about Trump's kidnapping children and locking them in concentration camps.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete
Well you never answered the question. Didn't your family fight in WWII? Against white supremacy? How do you reconcile it with your own embrace of Trump's white supremacy?

This is the 3rd or 4th time I asked you, right?


Do you hate the Japanese?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: peacefulpete
Well you never answered the question. Didn't your family fight in WWII? Against white supremacy? How do you reconcile it with your own embrace of Trump's white supremacy?

This is the 3rd or 4th time I asked you, right?


Do you hate the Japanese?


Now we're just asking random meaningless questions.

Do you hate... bubble gum?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: peacefulpete
Well you never answered the question. Didn't your family fight in WWII? Against white supremacy? How do you reconcile it with your own embrace of Trump's white supremacy?

This is the 3rd or 4th time I asked you, right?


Do you hate the Japanese?


Now we're just asking random meaningless questions.

Do you hate... bubble gum?


No, but I do hate vapid fatuousness and the celebration of the mundane.

Your ignorance of history is amusing me. The US entered WWII to retaliate for Pearl Harbor, war was declared against Japan on December 8, 1941. It wasn't until December 11, 1941, AFTER Germany declared war on the US that the United States declared war on Germany. "White Supremecy" had eff-all to do with the US fighting in WW2 and National security and sovereignty had everything to do with it. Use a goddamned history book for something other than a repair for a broken couch leg for a change and actually educate yourself before you flap your e-mouth on topics you clearly don't know anything about. Doing so makes people appear less of a fool.
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posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

Yeah, you keep asking it in such a way as to disparage my family. So I ignore your posts as being meaningless drivel. You wouldn't know how to actually fight a war if someone gave you step-by-step directions... and certainly are nothing compared to any of those heroes you disparage.

I say it one more time: they fought to win, not from a position of hate. If you cannot understand that, don't blame me. Go ask your 'rents (I think that's the generational term).

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's kinda obvious that the history course in the public education system is sorely lacking.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: peacefulpete
Well you never answered the question. Didn't your family fight in WWII? Against white supremacy? How do you reconcile it with your own embrace of Trump's white supremacy?

This is the 3rd or 4th time I asked you, right?


Do you hate the Japanese?


Now we're just asking random meaningless questions.

Do you hate... bubble gum?


No, but I do hate vapid fatuousness and the celebration of the mundane.

Your ignorance of history is amusing me. The US entered WWII to retaliate for Pearl Harbor, war was declared against Japan on December 8, 1941. It wasn't until December 11, 1941, AFTER Germany declared war on the US that the United States declared war on Germany. "White Supremecy" had eff-all to do with the US fighting in WW2 and National security and sovereignty had everything to do with it. Use a goddamned history book for something other than a repair for a broken couch leg for a change and actually educate yourself before you flap your e-mouth on topics you clearly don't know anything about. Doing so makes people appear less of a fool.


You're saying that white supremacy was not a huge part of WWII? Nazi's? Genocide? Holocaust? Nazi's endeavoring to win the war and conquer the rest of the world?

I suggest you take a second look at history yourself... WWII was completely based on defeating white supremacist ideology.

That's what's so amazing about Rump's attempted recreation of a Nazi movement. It's impossible to take root here. Most white Americans are not racists, most white Americans hate Nazi's and hate white supremacist ideology.

Most Americans' grandfathers fought and died in WWII specifically to destroy white supremacist ideology.

Now Retard-Rump is trying to recreate Hitler's movement, with the grandchildren of the Americans who gave their lives AGAINST white supremacy.

It's almost funny how retarded and impossible the whole idea is...



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: peacefulpete

Yeah, you keep asking it in such a way as to disparage my family. So I ignore your posts as being meaningless drivel. You wouldn't know how to actually fight a war if someone gave you step-by-step directions... and certainly are nothing compared to any of those heroes you disparage.

I say it one more time: they fought to win, not from a position of hate. If you cannot understand that, don't blame me. Go ask your 'rents (I think that's the generational term).

TheRedneck


Well if you're American, then your grandfathers presumably were drafted into WWII to defeat white supremacy.

And now you're embracing the same hate-based ideology that your grandfathers sacrificed their lives to PREVENT your stupid ass from embracing it, lol.

That's the contradiction, against your own grandfathers. But I can see that you're not willing to think about that.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's kinda obvious that the history course in the public education system is sorely lacking.

TheRedneck


If you don't understand that WWII was based on defeating white-supremacist ideology, of the Nazi's, then please, revisit the topic. It's a pretty important part of world history of the last century.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

Most of the nations fighting against Germany were strong majority white. "White supremecy" had nothing to do with the war against Germany in any way, shape, or form. It's a sad truth from history, NOBODY gave a tinker's damn that Germany was incarcerating Jews and gypsies... the rest of Europe didn't act on it. The Nuremberg Laws, concentration camps, and ghettos had been in place for over 6 years before the US even entered the war. While the Jews were incarcerated and the Holocaust was initiated, Russia, Britain, France, Poland, and Czechoslovakia were signing non-aggression pacts and the Treaty of Munich with Germany... THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AT THAT TIME. Why in the hell would Russia have given two figs when Stalin had just overseen his own country's "racial cleansing" via the Holodomor? They did not declare war on Germany when Germany violated the Munich treaty and fully invaded Czhechoslovakia... they did declare it when he invaded Poland, but Russia held back until Hitler violated their pact and invaded Russia. IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM DID WW2 ARISE BECAUSE ANYONE WANTED TO STOP HITLER'S GENOCIDE. The US, itself, openly stated that the plight of the Germany Jews was something they and Europe needed to resolve and had nothing to do with this country. Nobody in the US was chomping at the bit to enter the war until Japan dragged us in by bombing Hawaii.

Whatever goddamned revisionist history book or leftist fairy tale coloring book you got this information from needs to be burned because it is informational horsesnip.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6




"White supremecy" had nothing to do with the war against Germany in any way, shape, or form.


Wow.

Um, well, the real-life fact is that:

White-supremacist ideology was the ONE thing that WWII was about, more than anything.

Most of the world did not want to be conquered and ruled by Nazi's.

Thankfully, the Nazi's were defeated.

And thankfully, most Americans, and most of the world, are AGAINST that same ideology, which was already defeated in the mid 1940's.

Unfortunately the thread has devolved into white-supremacist revisionist history, denying the obvious history that you know actually happened lol.

Next you'll be saying that WWII didn't really happen or something lol.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

Please provide a source for your position on this historical cause of WWII. Find me a statement from FDR, or Churchill, or a veteran who fought in that war that indicates that was their primary, or even one of their major driving factors in that war. If you are so secure in your position, that should prove to be ridiculously easy to source, yes?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete
Actually those are my points. I don't like having a president who is a retarded wannabe-Hitler, with thousands of Hispanic kids imprisoned in concentration camps.


So a converted Walmart where kids get food, clothing, shelter, medical, health workers and so on is a ? They have be better in your "concentration camp" than where they been most of their lives.



The answer of what Trump should have done, at worst, he should have continued the same policies before him, and then we wouldn't be talking about Trump's kidnapping children and locking them in concentration camps.


What? Catch and release on their own to never come back to a court date?



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

Son...

WWII was fought over German and Japanese conquest. You might want to actually listen to Burdman30ott6; he's telling you the truth. The US was one of the very last nations to become involved. We were neutral until Pearl Harbor when the JAPANESE bombed the place back to the stone age. We declared war on Japan, who was allied with Germany, who declared war on us, and then... only then... did we declare war on Germany. The Holocaust was over by then. That started before the war even began.

The Nazi party was the National Socialist party in Germany at the time. We were fighting socialists led by a charismatic and (IMO) insane leader. If there is any correlation between Nazi Germany and recent US history it was under Barrack Hussein Obama. The Nazi party advocated redistribution of property to party loyalists, weaponization of government agencies against individuals who were not party loyalists, the removal of free speech, and weapons confiscation from the public, just like Obama. Just like ANTIFA.

You don't even know who the Nazis were. You don't know who we were fighting. You don't know when or how we declared war. You don't know when the Holocaust took place. You don't know what made Nazis so bad. In short, you don't know jack squat, and you prove it with every single post you make. Hell, I'd be laughing along with Burdman30ott6 at you if it wasn't so damn tragic.

The motto of ATS is Deny Ignorance. You got you some purty bigly denyin' to do, boy. Best get on it.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: peacefulpete

Please provide a source for your position on this historical cause of WWII. Find me a statement from FDR, or Churchill, or a veteran who fought in that war that indicates that was their primary, or even one of their major driving factors in that war. If you are so secure in your position, that should prove to be ridiculously easy to source, yes?


Well the problem is that you know what I said is true, so ur asking me for sources to validate historical facts that you already know.

And obviously you’re ignorant on purpose, which is a choice. You’re ignorant and racist and hateful because you WANT to be. Not because of a lack of historical knowledge.

So you’re asking for information that you already know, and no amount of information can affect your CHOICE of embracing ignorance and hatred.

Enjoy your deliberate ignorance.




posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: peacefulpete
Actually those are my points. I don't like having a president who is a retarded wannabe-Hitler, with thousands of Hispanic kids imprisoned in concentration camps.


So a converted Walmart where kids get food, clothing, shelter, medical, health workers and so on is a ? They have be better in your "concentration camp" than where they been most of their lives.



The answer of what Trump should have done, at worst, he should have continued the same policies before him, and then we wouldn't be talking about Trump's kidnapping children and locking them in concentration camps.


What? Catch and release on their own to never come back to a court date?


Walmart or not, yes they are literally concentration camps.

And they’re illegal and immoral.

I’m not interested to argue with white supremacists for or against concentration camps.




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