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Neo-Nazis Are Organizing Secretive Paramilitary Training Across America

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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Well if you can find any official stats that show left wing attacks then go for it.



That’s the issue isn’t it?
Antifa isnt included in ‘left wing attacks’ for some reason.
I wonder why that is?


But they’re definitely a left wing ultra-fascist terrorist organisation. And they responsible for a LOT of ‘attacks’.

But neo Nazis. They’re the problem, right?
edit on 13 1 2019 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

What constitutes "official stats". Serious question. Quartz news?



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: ErrorErrorError

Some of us are having a discussion. Your reply just feeds the madness. If the claim is true, then it should concern us all. Just how serious is this threat?


So. 6 minutes after the OP has posted the thread we already have a) people claiming it's bs because it's vicee, b) other extremist groups do the same, so it's okay, c) it's false flag. And you call that a discussion?



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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When the neo-nazis take over, what nazi policies will they bring back.

For example

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

Nazis demand the nationalization of all trusts.

Nazis demand profit-sharing in large industries.

Nazis demand a generous increase in old-age
pensions.

Nazis demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

Nazis demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. Nazis demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State

Nazis demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press,

My all time favorite demand of right wing people:

In order to carry out this program Nazis demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

If you took a poll of the above, how many right wingers would be for the above idea, how many on the left? Yet these are part of the Nazis 25 points.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

Allow me to clarify.


When leftists attack, break things, harm people. . . it's called "free speech".


When anyone else hurts feelings, it's called an "attack".



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: sine.nomine




You claimed people are more likely to be killed by right wing terrorists than any other type of attack.


I didn’t say killed I said “caught up in” the number of fatalities is pretty much the same between right wing and Islamic attacks but I do think Islamic attacks are slightly ahead.

Can’t remember the exact numbers but you seem so keen on stats perhaps you could have a look.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
Antifa does the same thing. Just the other side catching up.


sweet. so, antifas training how to kill people and take over the world? i know some antifas and i don't know if this is true... ah, i know its not true. ever heard about the National Socialist Underground?



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: ErrorErrorError

I said some of us. Some. Yes, some of us are trying to have a discussion. You're only feeding into what you supposedly despise. You don't see that?

What are your thoughts on the topic? I didn't seem to catch that.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
When the neo-nazis take over, what nazi policies will they bring back.

For example

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

Nazis demand the nationalization of all trusts.

Nazis demand profit-sharing in large industries.

Nazis demand a generous increase in old-age
pensions.

Nazis demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

Nazis demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. Nazis demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State

Nazis demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press,

My all time favorite demand of right wing people:

In order to carry out this program Nazis demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

If you took a poll of the above, how many right wingers would be for the above idea, how many on the left? Yet these are part of the Nazis 25 points.


Shhhhh!
People think nazis were a right-wing organisation. Don’t post facts, they’re here claiming that neo-nazis ARENT leftists.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I agree. The problem is that any news source with a bias tends to skew those statistics, so it's hard to take them at face value.


Link

Some good stuff there.....

Dude it’s a simple fact if you look at terrorism since after 9/11 what I have said is true.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: sine.nomine




You claimed people are more likely to be killed by right wing terrorists than any other type of attack.


I didn’t say killed I said “caught up in” the number of fatalities is pretty much the same between right wing and Islamic attacks but I do think Islamic attacks are slightly ahead.

Can’t remember the exact numbers but you seem so keen on stats perhaps you could have a look.

I never claimed to be keen on stats. Quite the opposite, really. I've heard many stories of attacks from the left. All I'm saying is that a left-leaning source saying right wing attacks are rampant is questionable. I think that's a fair assessment.

I'm also saying that if real, actual Neo-Nazis are planning some military BS, then it should be a concern. Something should be done about that. If we're aware of it because it's been published on national television, then law enforcement is probably working on it. And for good reason.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.

You seriously don't want to discuss the topic of this thread, do you?

If this is true is it not alarming that nazi s are preparing for a violent conflict?



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.


Could you answer this for me if that true....


Why did the Nazis hate the Jews and the Far right wingers like the KKK, Aryan Nation, New Century foundation, Atomwaffen, etc. also hate Jews and people of color.





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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Okay that's 62 pages, so I honestly don't have the time to go through it, but I already see it's focused on "right wing terrorism" and "Islamic terrorism". What about left wing terrorism then? That just doesn't seem to exist in any document or source you've provided.

I guess the only terrorism is right wing. Funny how that works.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: SingswithChickens1

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.

You seriously don't want to discuss the topic of this thread, do you?

If this is true is it not alarming that nazi s are preparing for a violent conflict?


Oh it’s very alarming. That’s for sure.
But if any known ‘group’ is ‘known’ to be ‘preparing for a violent conflict’ then I’m sure the law and the feds are monitoring them.
Hopefully they do their jobs properly and shut these ‘groups’ down before they amount to anything.



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: ErrorErrorError

I said some of us. Some. Yes, some of us are trying to have a discussion. You're only feeding into what you supposedly despise. You don't see that?

What are your thoughts on the topic? I didn't seem to catch that.




My thoughts?
I'm not surprised.
USA is a perfect breeding ground for neo nazi filth.
Everyone can spout hate, without consequences.
Everyone can buy a firearm.
They finally have a president they wished for.
Not all Trump supporters are neo nazis, but all neo nazis support Trump.
Why is it hard to believe that nazis have training camps in USA? They are protected by the constitution
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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.


Could you answer this for me if that true....


Why did the Nazis hated the Jews and the Far right wingers like the KKK, Aryan Resistance, New Century foundation, etc. also hate Jews and people of color.




Oh so because I don’t ‘hate gays’ then I’m a ‘leftist’?
Is that your argument?
Why did nazis take away gun rights?
Why did they enforce socialism?
Why did they pretty much follow Bernie Sanders’ doctrine to the letter?



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: soundguy
You should really stop repeating that lie. Everyone knows it’s a lie, and the few people who are obsessed with repeating it here aren’t changing anyone’s mind. However, when you see some of your right wing nazi pals you should inform them how stupid they are to be worshiping a liberal leftest, lmao.

I have a former friend that’s a member of one of those groups. These people are not right in the head. Mix in some religion and they are about a crazy as you can get and still walk the street.





a reply to: Breakthestreak



How incorrect is your belief system?

Very.

Nazis were a left wing government.


Could you answer this for me if that true....


Why did the Nazis hated the Jews and the Far right wingers like the KKK, Aryan Nation, New Century foundation, Atomwaffen, etc. also hate Jews and people of color.




The will add one more Q to that. Why did Hitler inprison German socialists and communists if nazis were left wing?



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