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originally posted by: mirageman
My problem with this case is that almost everything is anecdotal. Walton was gone 5 days but his system showed no build up of ketones despite him claiming he was not given food or water during his experience. He also chose to call his sisters from a telephone booth on his reappearance not the emergency services.
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Travis claims he was only conscious for 15-20 minutes — from the time of getting zapped to the time he awoke. So from his own testimony, he was essentially comatose for the better part of 5 days.
1. Is it possible he had some type of IV to feed him nutrients? Hence, the lack of ketones.
2. Is it possible that wherever Travis went, there was only several hours lapsed? Yet, here in our plane of existence, over 5 days lapsed? After all, Huge time disparities are a major theme of countless high weirdness cases.
3. Most importantly, the supposed reason for the hoax: Did they get the desired extension on the logging contract? This is apparently the strongest argument for them concocting this hoax in the first place.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: KKLOCO
I don't claim to know this one inside out.....But what do we really have as evidence other than Travis going missing?
Travis claims he was only conscious for 15-20 minutes — from the time of getting zapped to the time he awoke. So from his own testimony, he was essentially comatose for the better part of 5 days.
1. Is it possible he had some type of IV to feed him nutrients? Hence, the lack of ketones.
If this was a supposed alien abduction why would they keep nutrients and medical equipment designed for human beings aboard their spacecraft? How come, as ever, the conditions aboard were suitable atmosphere, gravity and temperature all perfect for a human being. Why did they keep him aboard for 5 days?
If it wasn't aliens, which we have no proof exist nor why they would be visiting a remote forest in November 1975, then what are the most likely alternatives?
2. Is it possible that wherever Travis went, there was only several hours lapsed? Yet, here in our plane of existence, over 5 days lapsed? After all, Huge time disparities are a major theme of countless high weirdness cases.
The problem is that there is no other proof of that possibility that we know of. Also allegedly Walton had lost weight and showed a beard growth consistent with the time he was missing (5 days). Which knocks that idea on the head anyway.
3. Most importantly, the supposed reason for the hoax: Did they get the desired extension on the logging contract? This is apparently the strongest argument for them concocting this hoax in the first place.
Not necessarily. People hoax things for all sorts of reasons including doing it for fun and getting one over. Don't forget these guys got a reward from the National Enquirer. I think if resources had been unlimited that this case would have been resolved before now. But...
To date, the UFO literature considers Travis Walton’s woodcutter to be the most famous and best-documented fourth type of meeting....
According to Travis Walton on November 5, 1975, this happened to him, and the strangers were taken away by his fellow eyes...
Travis Walton in 1975 as a woodcutter
The story begins on November 5, 1975. At that time, 22-year-old Travis Walton, his best friend, Mike Rogers, works as a lumberjack.
Shortly before, Rogers managed to sign up for a nine-year contract with the United States Forestry Service (Unites States Forest Service), so Walton had a date with Mike’s sister Dan, who later wanted to marry.
Other members of the logging team are Ken Peterson, John Goulette, Steve Pierce, Allen Dallis and Dwayne Smith. They all lived in Snowflake, Arizona.
Their task was to thoroughly throw the undergrowth and the bushes in an area of about five square kilometers...
That evening, they did a little over eighteen hours. They put their tools in Rogers’ vans and went home...
According to them, shortly afterwards, they were looking at the high gloss, which was filtered from the hill before them...
As they arrived, they saw a large, silver disc hovering over a clearing. They said they could have been about 2.5 meters high and 6 meters in diameter.
Rogers slowed down when Travis Walton jumped out of the car and started rushing to the puck...Walton was frightened to go back to his companions, but the floating disco emitted a bluish-green radius at that moment, which had found Travis at his chest.
A few moments later, like a rag doll, she waved her body six meters back in the light that remained motionless on the ground. Rogers later said he was convinced that his friend had died, so he stepped into the gas...
Travis Walton was trapped in the second compartment in the second compartment. She had the same dress as she had disappeared, which was inadequate in the minus seven degrees cold. At a glance, he looked thinner and covered his face for several days...
See : alien-ufo-sightings.com...
originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Baddogma
Thanks.. watching it now, sounds to me they should remake the whole movie.
I would love to see it the way he experienced it
6 witnesses who stick by the story 40 years later not enough for you?.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: IMSAM
Ps can the owners of the site bring travis for an AmA?
He's got an ATS account and posted about the incident in a number of posts in 2010. He made some good points and was certainly a ballsy guy.
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
a reply to: InTheLight
Here's a link: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Most of Walton's actual ATS posts focused on that 'Moment Of Truth' nonsense - which he admits was a stupid thing to ever get involved in, but the $100,000 prize was too big a carrot.
originally posted by: mirageman
Sure I don't doubt that they believe they saw a UFO [an unidentified flying object is all you can say]. That's the same conclusion that the polygraph expert came to.
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
a reply to: InTheLight
How odd. The ATS link on the right is missing from your screen?
In any case, I just checked and the linked interview audio within that post seems dead now (mind you, it was 9 years ago), and I was looking forward to listening myself!
Shame. I wonder if other ATSers have separate sources for it.
originally posted by: InTheLight
Are you saying ATS archives would not keep these special interviews?