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The biggest difference would be that they did not order a government shutdown depriving those americans of their livelihood. For one....
Obviously. Now is your opportunity to clarify.
So do you or do you not support Trump declaring a National Emergency to divert military funds for a southern border wall construction? I don't want to misunderstand you again.
At what point does someone not deserve to be paid?
I agree... well, except so far I do support Trump. He's actually tried to do what he said he would. I'm sure that will change eventually.
I don't see any contradiction , where did I say it was immoral for a President to run om a policy he probably couldn't achieve.
All political policy pledges are aspirations until they are achieved regardless of party.
Rather than continuously saying "I'm going to hit you with this stick if you don't do what I say" I'd rather he used the stick and help the workers who've become the victims in all this.
So they're all super rich elite scumbags .
At least we can agree on something then , apart from the Trump bit.
Do you think a southern border wall is immoral?
How much makes them super-rich scumbags? Got a number?
Agreed. Trump may follow too. It seems to be human nature to turn corrupt in Washington DC.
I don't think the wall is immoral I think the Presidents modus operandi to get the wall is immoral , he's created the problem and workers are paying the price.
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: seeker1963
Trump should actually hold a press conference outside the walls of her house.
Whilst he is at it, he should bring along some homeless vets in SF and ask that she take them in.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
It’s not that a wall is immoral in itself but rather opponents of the wall argue that it is immoral to use it to continue the shut down, holding workers pay cheques hostage to play political games and use it to detract from other issues. I think one of the sound bites recently what that a wall isn’t immoral but I effective.
Trump has to take the blame for the shutdown. He said he would. Why is everyone turning a blind eye to this? There are several posts in this thread about how it's "on the Democrats" and it's "Chuck and Nancy's fault". No it's not. It's Trump's fault. He said so himself.
Now, about the wall. "5 billion is nothing, why not just give it to him?" That's the reasoning of a bad parent. "He's throwing a temper tantrum, and it's just a little piece of candy, why not just give it to him?" Because he has to learn how to behave, that's why.
He was not elected to build a wall. He was elected to govern the country according to the will of the people.