John Paul 2, Saint Malachi, & the Mayan Calendar, page 2
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reply posted on 5-4-2005 @ 08:51 PM by Jaxle
Saint Malachy, a 12th Century Monk, predicted that there would be 112 Popes until Doomsday. Pope John Paul 2 is named as Pope 110 and is now dead. The nature of the prophecies is well known. They consist of 111 mottos in Latin, plus a concluding epigraph. These items pertain to each of the popes (and apparently some of the antipopes) in a sequence stretching from Malachy's time until Judgement Day.
The 111th prophecy of St. Malachy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The meaning of the olive is unclear. The Order of Saint Benedict – not St. Malachy – has claimed that this pope will come from its ranks and Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its final fight against evil.

Blessed Bernard Tolomei, founder of the Archabbey of Monte Oliveto Maggiore, Italy, was born in Siena 1272. He was educated as a nobleman of the Tolomei family and had a distinguished career as a lawyer. At around the age of forty, he felt called to a radical living out of his Christian vocation.
With some companions, he retired to a remote place to the Southeast of Siena, known as the “Desert of Accona”. The first monks lived a eremetical lifestyle in the caves of the hillside. Gradually they evolved into a more organised community.

"When later a monastery was founded on the site, it was given the name of Saint Mary of Monte Oliveto. According to the tradition, one day, while Bernard was praying in the place where the church was later to be built, he saw a silver stairway rising eastwards, to Heaven. Jesus Christ and his Holy Mother, dressed in white, were standing at the top. A group of monks, all dressed in white, were climbing the stairs helped by angels."
(Chron. by Antonio da Barga).

Bernard and his companions received the Benedictine habit and the Rule of the Father of western monasticism. Since the time of their founder Olivetans have been clothed in white. A special characteristic of the Olivetan reform is its emphasis upon the spirit of communion uniting all its houses, called to form unum corpus – one body.  

When, in 1348, the plague was spreading in Siena, Bernard returned to the town to care for his fellow monks at the monastery of St Benedict. According to tradition, he died - a victim of the plague on the 20th of August - among his spiritual sons. He was subsequently venerated as a Saint. He is officially celebrated on August 19th.

So, is there a Benedictine Olivetan waiting in the wings?


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reply posted on 5-4-2005 @ 09:02 PM by they see ALL
the next pope will not be jewish!!!

this makes no sense!!!

it is like saying the head of buhdism will be christian...

the next pope will be ITALIAN...

this is what is TOLD to us in the prophecies...

an OLIVE BRANCH is a sign of peace NOT a sign of JEW...

a yahoo search

the first few have some good info...

it SHOULD be noted that these prophecies CONTRADICT the BIBLE...

if these prophecies are from God, then why do they contradict His ORIGINAL "plan" (if you will)...

this "plan" is the Bible...

God wouldn't CONTRADICT Himself...

would He???

i thought He was smart???

people think these prophecies are from Satan himself...

remember...

the "end of the world" is NOT a short process...

Satan (as anti-christ, false-pope and false-prophet) WILL gain CONTROL over this earth...

then many years of pain and suffering will start...

then, Jesus will come and save us and set up world peace...

ok???





reply posted on 6-4-2005 @ 12:10 AM by unclelester
Just a thought... Could it be possible that these prophecies have been taken seriously enough by the Church over the centuries that they have become part of the doctrine in a way? Even if the prophecies are discounted by the current leadership, centuries of belief in them could make them self-fulfilling, even sub-consciously. I've noted the "fact" that there is only space for two more pope pix mentioned several times (can anyone confirm this?), which is an incredible coincidence given how many popes are supposed to be left in line.

JPII probably would have been aware of the prophecies, and could have seen himself as the "world traveler", striving to fulfill this prophecy. The College of Cardinals, also aware of the prophecies, may lean towards a pope that fulfills the next prophecy, whether a Benedictine, former Jew, or an archbishop floating in a martini glass. Hell, for all we know, St. Malachi's prophecy is the only criteria the College of Cardinals uses.


As for JPI, our more conspiracy-minded friends here on ATS may see the possibility of a man, willingly or unwillingly, fulfilling his role in a way to make the prophecy make sense.
For those who may doubt that People of Faith would willingly try to fulfill a doomsday prophecy, consider those Evangelical Christians who are attempting to help usher in the End-Times(TM) through influencing politics here and abroad.
Okay, maybe more than just a thought, but I don't say much here on ATS and I figure I'm due.


reply posted on 6-4-2005 @ 06:11 PM by Lanotom
I've read at this link Post#21
www.freerepublic.com...

Which would make this next Pope the last.



The original prophecies of Malachy did not contain the Petrus Romanus motto - it was added after the 1820 publication of the prophecies. The problem with the prophecies as listed in The Prophecies of St. Malachy, published by the Thomas A. Nelson, a Catholic Publishing House, is that Malachy's original works listed only 111 Popes, not 112, as given in the TAN version of the prophecies. Sometime between the first and subsequent printings the 112th, Petrus Romanus, was added to Malachy's prophecy.


I can understand that it could have been added so that we not know the time nor the place.
Also I have read that St. Peters name was Simon and I'm typing on a "Gray" field. How odd.
The day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. Hmmm....
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