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A Sculpture Celebrating Saudi Arabia Has Been Erected on Ground Zero. “There is no god but Allah,

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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: WilsonWilson
Islam and christianity share the same god. Yes the abrahamic religions are all sexist, racist and homophobic. Seems a bit rich for one to criticise the other.

Archaeology, history and Islam's own pagan crescent moon symbol say your wrong.

Not only is the "Abrahamic faiths" concept a fabrication of Islam, it is a massive contradiction and a total complete fallacy...

Allah was a pagan name for a peculiar pagan Arabian deity in pre-Islamic times.


The concept of “Abrahamic faiths” is a fallacy. It is reasonable to ask whether this is a theological Trojan horse designed to promote an Islamic worldview of relations between faiths.

The Abrahamic Fallacy (PDF)

‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a distinctly Islamic term that subverts historic Judaism and Christianity, reframes them within an Islamic worldview, asserts Islamic superiority, and thus is the very opposite of its alleged intended usage. ‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a loaded term that reinforces the Islamic claim that “Christianity and Judaism are regarded as distorted derivatives of Islam…” and serves the purpose of Islamic da’wa.

The term ‘Abrahamic faiths’ and its cognates is misleading. Reinforcing the term’s misleading nature, Aaron Hughes, in the conclusion of his book-length evaluation of the term Abrahamic Religions, states that it is more an impediment than an expedient to understanding. I trust that I have made the case that the term is, for all intents and purposes, meaningless.”105 Whilst in broad agreement with Hughes, the term ‘Abrahamic Faiths’ is worse than meaningless, because it is literally full of meaning. The term comes from the Qur’an, is a loaded term that serves the agenda of Islamic da’wa while undermining the authenticity of Judaism and Christianity. Therefore, I conclude that ‘Abrahamic faiths’ is a term that should be abandoned by scholars except in its original qur’anic signification.

The Myth of the Abrahamic Faiths (PDF)

It is a well known fact archaeologically speaking that the cresent moon was the symbol of worship of the Moon god both in Arabia and throughout the Middle East in pre-Islamic times. Educated Muslims understand these facts only too well—better, in fact, than most Christians. Robert Morey recalls a conversation he once had:

"During one trip to Washington DC I got involved in a conversation with a Muslim taxi driver from Iran. When I asked him, 'Where did Islam obtain its symbol of the crescent moon?' he responded that it was an ancient pagan symbol used throughout the Middle East and that adopting this symbol had helped Muslims to convert people throughout the Middle East. When I pointed out that the word Allah itself was used by the moon-god cult in pre-Islamic Arabia, he agreed that this was the case.

I then pointed out that the religion and the Quran of Muhammad could be explained in terms of pre-Islamic culture, customs, and religious ideas. He agreed with this! He went on to explain that he was a university-educated Muslim who, at this point in his life, was attempting to understand Islam from a scholarly viewpoint. As a result, he had lost his faith in Islam. The significance of the pre-Islamic source of the name Allah cannot be overestimated" (op.cit., pp.52-53).

“The origin of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning “God” (or a “god”, and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, I:326, Hastings).

What is particularly interesting to me personally is seeing the parallels between the evolution of Islam and the Roman Catholic Church, both of which absorbed pagan ideas in order to make converts. Muhammad was not alone in his plagiarisation of other religions.

The archaeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion in Arabia was the cult of the moon-god. The Old Testament consistently rebuked the worship of the moon-god (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:3; II KIngs 21:3,5; 23:5; Jeremiah 8:2; 19:13; Zephaniah 1:5).

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Everything in islam and its qur’an was stolen from Ancient Pagan Religions that predated it by thousands of years. The symbols are no exception and are nothing other than twisted corruptions of their much earlier and original Pagan versions.

islamic symbols STOLEN from Ancient Paganism

Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.

The pagan Arabs worshipped the Moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc.

The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles. Islam is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god.

Allah the Moon God

"The source of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning "God" (or a "god"), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity." (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (ed. Hastings), I:326.)

According to the Encyclopedia of Religion, Allah corresponded to the Babylonian god Baal, and Arabs knew of him long before Mohammed worshipped him as the supreme God. Before Islam the Arabs recognized many gods and goddesses, each tribe had their own deity.

bayezid, who is Allah

“Historians have said Allah was actually the chief of the 360 gods being worshipped in Arabia at the time Mohammed rose to prominence. Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Kaaba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Mohammed came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this.” (G.J.O. Moshay, Who Is This Allah? (Dorchester House, Bucks, UK, 1994), pg. 138).

GOD AND ALLAH ARE DIFFERENT




posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 02:34 PM
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Only in America is this somehow acceptable.

Does anyone think Japan would let us place an Iwo Jima flag raising statue at Nagasaki or Hiroshima?



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Where's the outrage? Where's the black clad terrorists lighting fires, tearing down the statutes or endless street protests?

That's right. Their moral high-ground myth falls apart again & again.

It should read: "There is no true God but our God." This is America. In God We Trust. Damn heathens.
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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

hey i dont blame you, you have been reading and seeing lots of bad things done by bad Muslims every where
i get it, they are bad people and even I as a Muslim dont like them and wouldn't come near them or visit their countries

but calling Islam a cancer? come on man, you dont judge a religion by the deeds of the people, you know better than that.

to judge Islam you should read the whole book without taking a verse out of context

you should join my American friends (whom are conservatives like me and voted for Trump) here where I live where we sit together almost every weekend and see how different the real life is, as well as the Australians, Irish, British, South Africans and lots more, you're missing a lot of fun

by the way those candies represent flags of 20 countries which was SA one of them, so it wasnt just for SA

lots of things I want to say but



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I hear you and I'm the last one to be kowtowing to Muslims, but you cannot display the Saudi Flag without that Arabic inscription.

It's almost like "In God We Trust" on all our coins. But obviously a little different and they take it a little more seriously...

But if you want to include them and their flag, this is how it must be. It's not the same as like putting up a big sign over ground zero that says "There is no God but Allah." Its just their flag which happens to have that inscription.

Trump did the sword dance, they are our wartime allies now for better or worse and I'm inclined to trust our president.

If Trump is really a Rothschild plant or a Deep State controlled opposition, then sign me up for the NWO already. If they are that good, that they put on this entire show just to fool us, then I give up. Just tell us what you want from us and let's get it over with.

I'm hoping to see the galaxy, maybe I'll get lucky and be placed in a Kalrythian Salt Mine.



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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Trump supporters and their faux outrage.
Where was your outrage when Trump visited and sold weapons to these savages?!
Where was the outrage when Trump denied any involvement of Saudi crown prince in the murder of he journalist Khashoggi?!
That's right. There was none.
You even defended Trump.
And here you are.
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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: Murgatroid




Archaeology, history and Islam's own pagan crescent moon symbol say your wrong.


here is where you are completely wrong and do not understand Islam, this just shows that you dont read a source other than Islam haters.

the quran states a lot of time that the moon is a creation of God, so no the moon is not God in Islam



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:14 PM
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So Saudi Arabia orchestrates attacks on US Soil that kills thousands and we not only do business as usual with them and don't classify them as a terrorist country, but we let them erect a monument to themselves at the site of this attack praising the worlds most dangerous and violent religion.

Interesting.

And American Liberals and Conservatives and Evangelicals celebrate them as a great country and people.
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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: amazing

amazing is your name and not amazing is your comment

this candy is not for KSA only, its for 20 other countries participating.

and for the other claims that you mentioned, no prof what so ever

keep on hating, im pretty sure its good for your health



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: Dr UAE
to judge Islam you should read the whole book without taking a verse out of context...

That premise is flawed to put it mildly and it makes about as much sense as trying to decipher Scientology by reading L. Ron Hubbard's "Dianetics".

One NEVER understands propaganda by STUDYING propaganda.

In fact, you will NEVER understand any type of fraud by looking at it from the inside out.

For example: Islam is a religion of peace...



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:34 PM
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It is pretty disgusting. Like marrying your rapist.



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Where's the outrage? Where's the black clad terrorists lighting fires, tearing down the statutes or endless street protests?

That's right. Their moral high-ground myth falls apart again & again.

It should read: "There is no true God but our God." This is America. In God We Trust. Damn heathens.


I to find abhorrent to and totally disrespectful, yet when I asked the question in your other thread, I was told freedom of speech is more important to the US

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


You either protect, preserve and defend the Constitution or you do not. There is no gray area. There is no middle ground. You either universally without condition support free speech or you do not truly support free speech in its entirety. Persecuting someone for holding unpopular beliefs expressing unpopular ideas is wrong. It is just as bad as those things you are railing against, however justified those sentiments may be.


So will you now defend their right to freely speak/express their views on American soil?

I am also outraged and will make my voice known in this very thread it is disgusting and disrespectful to the loss of life suffered by the US for this to be on that site, truly disgusting, and if I were to live in NY I would request its removal ASAP



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: Murgatroid




For example: Islam is a religion of peace...


yeah i know, you will never understand that, its difficult to understand by those who do not accept or even believe in a religion called Islam, not to mention reading from the original source, but hey, you're intellectual, you should do better



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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I really want to see the left protect this offensive statue.

Please, please start defending it!


Assholes.



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The longer these invaders are allowed to gain ground in North America, the harder it will be to get control back once the populace understands they've been trojan horsed.

Rise and shine to the masses, though I've no doubt they will continue to be distracted.



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: UpIsNowDown

Imo the disgust and outrage is even worse when you consider the religion that perpetrated the act is now protected here.



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
I really want to see the left protect this offensive statue.

Please, please start defending it!


Assholes.



come on DB, I like you, but please dont make this a Muslim thing, its 20 candies over there representing 20 countries.

come on man, you are much more intelligent than to mix up things



posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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This must be from The Onion !



Nope
My. Good. God
It's part of Observer media
A Jared Kushner owned media acquisition since 2007 (yup !)

I'd be curious to understand as to why a "Kushner Media" thing
would happily champion such an idea ...
if the story is indeed true

Cassi3l because: Thank you for the b'day wishes ...a crowd funder would'a been nicer though.

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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: ErrorErrorError

No outrage, really?? Very selective in your reading and listening then.

My outrage is right where it's always been.

I've never liked our involvement with SA. Buy their oil, sure...but anything else is utterly abhorrent. I'd just as soon not buy their oil, either.

I may safely be called conservative, though a bit more centrist than many, I would cut Saudi Arabia loose in a heart beat were it my decision to make.

I think you'd find, could you be bothered to look, that many share my thoughts on the matter.

As for the display? It's a thumb in the eye, remove 'em all. The G20 nations as sweet candy? To call that disturbing would be an understatement.


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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Yeah and few years ago it was Christianity, time moves on, don't act like ones better than the other, it ebbs and flows which is more destructive. Peoples vicious belief that their god is the right god,and their nasty desire to inflict it on others is the cancer on this earth. All are equally guilty.



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