Exellent UFO footage out of Utah taken in 2016 just now posted Clear What do you think ATS?

I don't believe for a moment bug or bird. I think it's CGI (probably) or legit. In all the UFO videos where it's a bug or a bird, I've always been able to see at least a tiny bit of movement that are their wings. No way this thing is a bird or bug, imo.

originally posted by: fleabit
I don't believe for a moment bug or bird. I think it's CGI (probably) or legit. In all the UFO videos where it's a bug or a bird, I've always been able to see at least a tiny bit of movement that are their wings. No way this thing is a bird or bug, imo.

Agree- you can tell it is very distant in the beginning. There are no visible rotors or wings so it is not a drone, either. Unless it's classified tech. Or yes, CGI.

I can see no evidence of compositing, though. Others claim they see it but are not posting images of what they are seeing, they are simply making pronouncements.

Even if it was 100% real, what does it actually prove?

a reply to: TheTruthRocks

Yes, you can see the frame images have been manipulated.

How so? I'm looking at the "RAW" footage he posted, and see no obvious signs of manipulation.
Caveat: I'm not an imaging expert nor claiming it is not CGI. I just don't see the evidence that it is, so far.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Even if it was 100% real, what does it actually prove?

That something flew past at an astonishing speed, defying explanation?

It wouldn't prove ET, but certainly an anomaly worthy of analysis - we've gotta start SOMEWHERE, as the saying goes.

IF it was 100% real, of course.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Even if it was 100% real, what does it actually prove?

That something flew past at an astonishing speed, defying explanation?
It wouldn't prove ET, but certainly an anomaly worthy of analysis - we've gotta start SOMEWHERE, as the saying goes.
IF it was 100% real, of course.

I guess most of us already know that weird things fly around in the sky. I don't see how this adds anything to this knowledge.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Even if it was 100% real, what does it actually prove?

That something flew past at an astonishing speed, defying explanation?
It wouldn't prove ET, but certainly an anomaly worthy of analysis - we've gotta start SOMEWHERE, as the saying goes.
IF it was 100% real, of course.

I guess most of us already know that weird things fly around in the sky. I don't see how this adds anything to this knowledge.

How does it not add to the knowledge? All legit sightings and more importantly video is incredibly important. If legit, I personally wouldn't be so flippant about it. "Ah.. a legit 1900 mph UFO, ok.. whatever."

originally posted by: fleabit
How does it not add to the knowledge? All legit sightings and more importantly video is incredibly important. If legit, I personally wouldn't be so flippant about it. "Ah.. a legit 1900 mph UFO, ok.. whatever."

I disagree. Even if it was legitimate, it doesn't provide any more information than is in the image. We get no answers to minor stuff like, where did it come from? Who built it? What's it made of? What makes it fly? Does it answer any of those questions? The five "Ws" they used to teach journalism school students that actually provide information?

No, it doesn't. It just goes into the file. It's not even the best video of a UFO taken. We have far better UFO footage that also have failed to provide us with any real answers. For instance, this one, which is over 30 years old and still one of the best. And what did we learn from it? If you guessed "little or nothing" then you're right.

If you watch it frame by frame backwards you can see before it appears it seems to come out of the trees.
It seems to part and you see what looks like a white thing. then it jumps and shoots across the screen?

It is like 3-4 frame prior to it appears fully.
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Have no idea what it is.
Anyone get the file because the limit has been reached on the google drive.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Nice video. I have never seen that video before. I seen a craft at night, moving around like that, with two other friends. The movement are sudden movements with no acceleration making it look like a laser pointer is being played with. The craft was a red glow it dipped down to the ground behind a hill illuminating the area red and slowly went back up it was vibrating diagonally back and forth at one point and it would stop and slowly move around shaking like the video. It was about five or ten miles away from us. It was hard to tell in the desert. The craft disappeared right in the middle of its little routine as soon as I turned the key on to slide the windows down to see if we could here it. I dont know if it detected the red light in the dash and the seat belt buzzing sound that came on. It seemed like it.

Sadly after finding time to download the file, it does not seem to actually be the original RAW file with Exif data. Don't even know when it was recorded from that file or what camera was used, nothing. Seems suspicious since they went to all the trouble to set up the download.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I think they might be playing games with words posting raw video (as in allegedly untouched) as opposed to RAW format video but I might be mistaken.

Well whatever the object is it's real and not added to the footage.
You can trace it back to a blurred pixel @ mark 1.47.17.

Exif doesn't show much besides creation date:- 18.10.2016 : 12.19.22 and Modification date of yesterday when it was imported into Adobe Premiere. (presumable to save the crop to upload).

Can't really capture a definitive image of the object as it's too fast for the camera's frame rate.

Hopefully we can get the location and get a better idea of it's flight path.

Hmmm 10/18/2016 What were the current events on that day/ week events anything significant happen around that date before or after???? what im trying to establish is a possible link to national/ global (human) events that might warrant a daylight excursion... something to point to Gov or MIC or even A private company cooperation with this flight..... I know it's out there but speculate! there may be something interesting...

a reply to: TheJesuit

Lol. Not much by the looks of it.

18th Oct 2016

Interesting. It looks like a Visual-Stealth Cruise-Missile test. It seems the extreme high-rate of speed on this, is interfering with the "Stealth Effect", just enough for a Digital Camera to pick it up. I never thought about that.

I've exchanged messages on Youtube with one of the guys who shot the footage, instead of just complaining about it.

It was shot on a DJI Zenmuse X5 camera. It was shot in 1080p because that was the final delivery dimensions and 4k would have added to much storage and rendering time. He says the first upload to YouTube that is "4k" is probably what his friend had his sequence set to by default. He confirms that by "raw," his friend who uploaded the video, created the voiceover, and shared the "raw" version simply meant unaltered- he was not referring to a RAW codec. He also said that he will zip the original file, as it came directly off the camera, not re-named or changed in any way, and upload it, so that what we get is as truly unaltered as possible. For some reason, the creation date was not preserved in the file I downloaded, which was why I asked him for that.

As for what this footage will "prove" or how it will move the subject forward- nothing and it likely won't. If that bothers you, maybe escort your cranky self off of the thread and leave those of us who still find it super interesting to our own devices 😝

a reply to: EHowardHuntClub

They heard no missile or anything else while filming.

I disagree. Even if it was legitimate, it doesn't provide any more information than is in the image. We get no answers to minor stuff like, where did it come from? Who built it? What's it made of? What makes it fly? Does it answer any of those questions? The five "Ws" they used to teach journalism school students that actually provide information?

We are not even close to the point to admitting it's a real thing. That is step 1. The more data, the closer we get. Dismissing anything but a smoking gun is ignorant. A preponderance of evidence is probably the only way this sees the light of day. And ignoring anything but a UFO landing on the lawn of the capital building of a first world country is the same as wearing blinders. People need to be part of the solution, not frustrated that a UFO didn't land in downtown Dallas.

Proving without a doubt that a sighting is not possible by anything we have on this planet, just ONCE.. is the key. Just one time. So ignoring sightings like this doesn't help the cause. This is likely CGI, but you have to keep plugging along, and find that holy grail - it's the only way.

since the raw footage download link (google drive) doesn't work currently, someone reuploaded the video somewhere else and posted the link in the comments section on youtube: uploadfiles.io...

take it for what its worth, it should be safe (seems to look like a valid quicktime/mp4 container - still downloading), if anyone still has the file from google drive, post checksum. for now, i'll assume it's the same file. will comment back after downloading.