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originally posted by: RedmoonMWC
a reply to: Boadicea
I don't want to sidetrack this thread but please don't try to blame it all on the "anti-vaxxers".
How many of the Illegal (Undocumented) border crossers were vaccinated before coming so freely into this country, and how many get vaccinated after finding a place to hide from ICE?
My bet would be none.
Despite challenges in accessing basic primary care services in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, each country reports high immunization coverage among children. Vaccination coverage in El Salvador varies from 90% to 93%, depending on the vaccine, while vaccination coverage ranges from 93% to 98% and 88% to 93% in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively19. El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras administer vaccines in accordance with the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Expanded Program on Immunization.
One of the measles can make you infertile. I forget if that's Rubella or German measles (they may be the same thing).
originally posted by: ClovenSky
I wonder if measles is like chicken pox, that the later in life you get them, the more severe the reaction?
What happens when you get the measles? Is there a 5% chance of death? Does it produce a lasting impact that will follow you throughout life? I don't get it.
originally posted by: INTJLibra
a reply to: TheComte
I think you would lose the bet. The anti Vader’s have nothing to do with it. I guess no one here has heard about the whistleblower lawsuit let alone read the public document case files. I did and I am lost for words on many levels.
Google Krahling v Merck and read for yourself.
There is one obvious clue that vaccination works. In 1980, 2.6 million people died of it, and in 1990, 545,000 died; by 2014, after global vaccination programs were introduced, deaths were down to73,000. And a common result of measles is profound incurable deafness.
The trial hasn't even started yet but it seems you've already reached a verdict that all vaccines are bad and don't work. I don't know if Merck faked effectiveness tests in this case. It's obviously wrong if they did, but it in no way proves that vaccines in general are ineffective, or worse cause autism or some crap like that.
Today we investigate one of the biggest medical controversies of our time: vaccines. There’s little dispute about this much-- vaccines save many lives, and rarely, they injure or kill. A special federal vaccine court has paid out billions for injuries from brain damage to death. But not for the form of brain injury we call autism. Now—we have remarkable new information: a respected pro-vaccine medical expert used by the federal government to debunk the vaccine-autism link, says vaccines can cause autism after all. He claims he told that to government officials long ago, but they kept it secret.
In 2007, Yates’ case and nearly all the other vaccine autism claims lost. The decision was based largely on the expert opinion of this man, Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a world-renowned pediatric neurologist shown here at a lecture.
Dr. Zimmerman was the government’s top expert witness and had testified that vaccines didn’t cause autism. The debate was declared over.
But now Dr. Zimmerman has provided remarkable new information. He claims that during the vaccine hearings all those years ago, he privately told government lawyers that vaccines can, and did cause autism in some children.
Dr. Zimmerman declined our interview request and referred us to his sworn affidavit. It says: On June 15, 2007, he took aside the Department of Justice—or DOJ lawyers he worked for defending vaccines in vaccine court. He told them that he’d discovered “exceptions in which vaccinations could cause autism.” “I explained that in a subset of children, vaccine induced fever and immune stimulation did cause regressive brain disease with features of autism spectrum disorder.”
Kennedy: This panicked the two DOJ attorneys and they immediately fired Zimmerman. That was on a Friday and over the weekend they called Zimmerman and said his services would no longer be needed. They wanted to silence him.
Days after the Department of Justice lawyers fired Dr. Zimmerman as their expert witness, he alleges, they went on to misrepresent his opinion to continue to debunk autism claims. Records show that on June 18, 2007, a DOJ attorney Dr. Zimmerman spoke to told vaccine court, “We know [Dr. Zimmerman’s] views on the issue...There is no scientific basis for a connection” between vaccines and autism. Dr. Zimmerman now calls that “highly misleading.”
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Boadicea
Sadly I knew a boy who died from Reyes syndrome when he was given aspirin when he had the chicken pox.
Never give aspirin to children under fifteen.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
When I was a child the only recourse was to expose your child to the disease so they develop antibodies.
Measels, chicken pox, mumps, german measles, I had them all as did my siblings. There was no vaccine.
Mothers did the spreading of the disease so that all the kids got it and got over it in the same bout.