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Fact checking CNN's fact checkers on trumps wall speech

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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:20 PM
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SO here is my video I just did on CNN fact check of trump.

I will transcribe more as I get time, but here are the relevant points.

You would expect fact checkers to be factually accurate themselves, and focus only on facts.

Instead, they seem to spend a lot of time argue things they claim trump implied (but didnt actually say) were not true, or claiming things like trump lied because he mentioned drugs being a problem, but most drugs dont come from the southern border (trump didnt claim that, so why is it a lie).

And at least in one area, about illegals committing less crime than us legals, they flat out lie.

They also never show any of their sources fro their claims, which if they are going to claim Trumps are lies, they should have sources to back it up.

Here is my video going thru their entire fact check.



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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:26 PM
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Here's Fox fact check...

www.rawstory.com...






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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Quote from your source:



“Statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population,” the host said, responding to the president’s list of crimes done by undocumented immigrants to make his case for the wall.


Exactly the point the OP is making.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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Watching the vid now. Excellent commentary and great points.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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Some of these "rebuttals" are insanely reaching. There was never any attempt to even appear objective. The Democrats themselves never delivered a rebuttal. They delivered a cascade of personal attacks on Trump. They offered nothing to counter what the President ACTUALLY said because they very obviously didn't watch the speech.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:39 PM
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But you insinuated what Trump meant when he said "democrats agreed to a steel wall" and used that as a basis for your counter fact check point correct?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Some of these "rebuttals" are insanely reaching. There was never any attempt to even appear objective. The Democrats themselves never delivered a rebuttal. They delivered a cascade of personal attacks on Trump. They offered nothing to counter what the President ACTUALLY said because they very obviously didn't watch the speech.


This is a personal attack on democrats, are you able to make out the irony?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

Is that really all you have to offer?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
But you insinuated what Trump meant when he said "democrats agreed to a steel wall" and used that as a basis for your counter fact check point correct?


I specifically said that trump was incorrect when he said this is what the dems requested.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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Trump knows the globalist want to flood the USA with caravan after caravan just like globalist controlled EU

You watch those caravan numbers turn into a sea if he doesn’t get this wall, the more that come the more the DEMs will become untouchable the more the USA dies

Simple as that
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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
But you insinuated what Trump meant when he said "democrats agreed to a steel wall" and used that as a basis for your counter fact check point correct?


I specifically said that trump was incorrect when he said this is what the dems requested.



Yes you did - what I'm getting at is the ending bit, the "of course they're not going to tell you what Trump is really talking about because CNN". What he's really taking about.

Nice video, not a bad channel after all. My wife says your walls are hideous roflmao



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: AScrubWhoDied

Is that really all you have to offer?


You can't answer a question with another question silly.

I gave you the answer and you still can't see it.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
But you insinuated what Trump meant when he said "democrats agreed to a steel wall" and used that as a basis for your counter fact check point correct?


I specifically said that trump was incorrect when he said this is what the dems requested.



Yes you did - what I'm getting at is the ending bit, the "of course they're not going to tell you what Trump is really talking about because CNN". What he's really taking about.

Nice video, not a bad channel after all. My wife says your walls are hideous roflmao


The walls suck in both places I record.

But thanks for watching and the kind words



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 10:24 PM
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You should build a fake WALL for your back ground.

I came to similar conclusions as you did concerning your OP. It is amazing how people can still watch CNN. Trump keeps winning.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 10:53 PM
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I thought fact checkers had to check facts and were supposed to use a statement in context to evaluate. I know already from looking up things on Fact check that they are not legitimate half the time. They only grab certain evidence that backs their desired direction most times which leads to improper interpretations of reality.

I am not a parrot, I never quote a fact check place, I investigate things myself since I can think for myself and try not to jump to conclusions but will sometimes state something looks like it is possible.

I used fact check quite a few times to check medical stuff and most times fact check does not even investigate legitimate research, using medical practices that have now been proven wrong to fuel some of their conclusions. They just parrot what is considered by consensus of the time to be legitimate.



posted on Jan, 9 2019 @ 09:16 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how much people appeal to these "fact checkers".

What are they, other than the equivalent of "Snopes" - the 100% truthful, end-all fact checkers that are nothing more than a left-progressive husband and wife, sitting at home doing google searches and coming to their own biased conclusions....

..... at least Snopes uses citations lololololololololol. I don't know if it's more funny or sad that Snopes is still (slightly) more reliable.....

Awesome.



posted on Jan, 9 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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It's getting to where every time I see a video with that bozo down in the corner, I just skip it. Do we really need someone to lecture us how to think? I would rather just draw my own conclusions.



posted on Jan, 9 2019 @ 03:17 PM
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We had two children die at the border. It was a huge deal. It made the news, all of it. So based on that, I'm am to assume that the life of a child is important, even just one. So, if that's the case, why is the small percentage of kids who are being sold into slavery or sex aren't a big deal since it's only a few?

as I have said, I'm not an educated democrat, but to me, that seems like a double standard.



posted on Jan, 9 2019 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: Grambler

It's getting to where every time I see a video with that bozo down in the corner, I just skip it. Do we really need someone to lecture us how to think? I would rather just draw my own conclusions.


So you will read a thread and thats not lecturing you on how to think, but the video does?



posted on Jan, 9 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

It's that guy in the corner. There are dozens of people like that on YT. They take a 4 minute news item and turn it into a 15 minute lecture. I wouldn't mind if he pointed out a few comments to show what's going on but it's the 10 minutes of indoctrination I've grown tired of.



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