Mayor De Blasio Announces Health Care For All NYC Residents

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Compare populations. all of the UK 66 million people compared to 325 million in the US.

Brits are really good at making their system seem magical while everything burns around them.

A 10% income tax increase on all the billionaires and millionaires in NYC should cover it and no great loss to them

originally posted by: zenartist
A 10% income tax increase on all the billionaires and millionaires in NYC should cover it and no great loss to them

I'm sure they'd be thrilled. It's just 10 percent.

I'd say we grab another 10 percent too while we are at it, for miscellaneous expenditures, just in case.

originally posted by: zenartist
A 10% income tax increase on all the billionaires and millionaires in NYC should cover it and no great loss to them

If you believe that lie and the poor won't be taxed to oblivion you deserve a tax increase.

a reply to: IAMTAT
Thats because it was lower Manhattan. The only cheap ones there were the rent control ones, if you were lucky enough to get one somehow, pretty much impossible. 20 years ago i had a one bedroom app in quens 65th street 34th ave for $900

But yeah some of the appartments in NYC are a f-ng joke

a reply to: JDmOKI

thats what tiered tax rates are for dont pay extra idf you make less than a million .. and for poor moving there they cant afford to live there anyway anymore

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Compare populations. all of the UK 66 million people compared to 325 million in the US.

Brits are really good at making their system seem magical while everything burns around them.

EU population 500million +.

All covered one way or another by healthcare.

a reply to: zenartist

I guess if you make NYC so unaffordable for anyone not Uber wealthy you don't have to pay for their health care and you can claim your socialist utopia actually works.

originally posted by: zenartist
A 10% income tax increase on all the billionaires and millionaires in NYC should cover it and no great loss to them

Those folks are already paying near 50% of their income in taxes between state and federal... they will pack up and leave.

Well, if he wants to tax residents and tourists to get city wide healthcare then he can. I suppose all businesses in the city will have to pay their contributions toward the health policies to the city too. They then will have to drop down healthcare benefits to their out of city workers since lowering numbers of employees will raise their premiums for remaining employees out of city.

Yeah, I can see utter fail and the resulting messed up future they are looking at from not thinking enough about consequences of their actions. I do believe we need nation wide health coverage for at least the basics, but a lot of things need to be contemplated when setting this thing up. Healthcare in America is double the cost of most other countries and far less effective, we need to go socialized medicine country wide and create more jobs making products people need here in America so people are working.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Well you have to wonder where the subsidies for this will be coming from...but I'm for healthcare for all...I hate to see a kids suffer because their parents made a bad decision...

originally posted by: BTPowers

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
I don't have a dog in this fight being a Brit, but I'd just like to say I'd wish my tax funded healthcare for everyone in the world. 500 million EU nationals have similar, it is only the US as a developed nation which doesn't offer such a system...
It is the sign of a civilised society in my opinion.

Amen to that, cousin! Cured of prostate cancer for $32 out of pocket. Dare to demand better, America!

Out of YOUR pocket, the rest came out of everyone's taxes. There's no free ride. If you like your healthcare, thank a rich person, they're subsidizing it.

No, I thank me, my neighbours, anyone who contributes to the tax base. We all pull together and we take care of each other. And our standard of living is at least as good as yours. Yes, Sparky...it CAN be done! Demand Better!

a reply to: ScepticScot

As of 2012 15% of our population was without health insurance and I'm sure that's decreased. We can do better that's for sure but the EU isnt the gold standard. I like the shop and keep my money at the same time.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Why do so many Canadians come to the US for treatment?

How many would that be? Please, do tell. I don't know one (and I know a lot of folks).

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DanDanDat
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I'm sure those who can afford to do so will ... leaving the rest of us middle class folks to foot the bill.

It's a wonder you all can pay rent as it is.

Have you seen some of the apartments New Yorkers live in? Some of them are barely big enough to lie down in. The place in Two Broke Girls would be considered a luxury apartment, way out of their price range.

I had a (very) tiny 1 BR apt. on E.25th. street between 2nd. & 3rd. ave in Manhattan about 30 years ago.
Back then, I paid $1300 per month.

I can only imagine what it is going for now.

On that website I linked to before, the cheapest price I spotted was $300/month, and it was literally just a closet with a mattress on the floor.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Why do so many Canadians come to the US for treatment?

How many would that be? Please, do tell. I don't know one (and I know a lot of folks).

I think its only the rich who can afford it and dont want to wait in line and all the cosmetic surgery that isnt covered

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Why do so many Canadians come to the US for treatment?

How many would that be? Please, do tell. I don't know one (and I know a lot of folks).

2014 estimate is 52513 Canadians received non emergency medical treatments in the US and abroad, a 25 % increase of the previous year.

originally posted by: Muninn

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Why do so many Canadians come to the US for treatment?

How many would that be? Please, do tell. I don't know one (and I know a lot of folks).

2014 estimate is 52513 Canadians received non emergency medical treatments in the US and abroad, a 25 % increase of the previous year.

www.forbes.com...

Canadians Are One In A Million -- While Waiting For Medical Treatment

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: DanDanDat
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I'm sure those who can afford to do so will ... leaving the rest of us middle class folks to foot the bill.

It's a wonder you all can pay rent as it is.

Have you seen some of the apartments New Yorkers live in? Some of them are barely big enough to lie down in. The place in Two Broke Girls would be considered a luxury apartment, way out of their price range.

I had a (very) tiny 1 BR apt. on E.25th. street between 2nd. & 3rd. ave in Manhattan about 30 years ago.
Back then, I paid $1300 per month.

I can only imagine what it is going for now.

On that website I linked to before, the cheapest price I spotted was $300/month, and it was literally just a closet with a mattress on the floor.

Just looked up the old address on Zillow and found the apt listed...currently rents for $4,795 mo.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Right because every other highly developed nation that has adopted healthcare has been turned into a third world nation because of it.

If you have universal healthcare then you dont need to buy health insurance. That money will go to taxes to pay for the healthcare.