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originally posted by: kaylaluv
You and I agree that we should keep the criminals out, but make it easier for the hard working, but poor immigrants to be here legally. Other than the Dreamer Act, Obama pretty much failed on making the path to citizenship easier and faster.
Can you fill me in on what Trump is doing about this, to make him so much better than Obama? In what ways is he proposing to make it faster, cheaper and easier for the “good guys” to be here legally? What has he done so far?
originally posted by: soundguy
It’s a shame that rwnj’s cant separate the differences between border security an an archiaic wall that will serve no purpose. Well besides satisfying the basket of deplorables who will quickly lurch to the next thing they are told to fear. Wash rinse and repeat. Deplorables are nothing if not predictable. a reply to: network dude
A bunch of people carrying a ladder, or assembling a ladder at the wall and climbing over it is gonna be a LOT easier to detect than people darting through the shadows, going from bush to bush, lying low and sneaking across.
originally posted by: bastion
It's pretty stupid to think hundred billion dollar industries like human and drug trafficking will disappear because of a wall. It may see a decrease for a month if built but would be rendered useless after that.
By all means crack down on illegal immigration, drugs and major crime but don't waste the money on cheap political soundbites and ineffective measures.
originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: Propagandalf
a beg to differ, a wall without a ceiling is ineffective. and, a wall that isn't continuous is even more ineffective.
originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: Propagandalf
what's more effective spending billions on a wall (that's not even continuous) or spending it on man power, technology, and reform?
are we in a crisis?
originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: Propagandalf
what's more effective spending billions on a wall (that's not even continuous) or spending it on man power, technology, and reform?
are we in a crisis?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
You and I agree that we should keep the criminals out, but make it easier for the hard working, but poor immigrants to be here legally. Other than the Dreamer Act, Obama pretty much failed on making the path to citizenship easier and faster.
Can you fill me in on what Trump is doing about this, to make him so much better than Obama? In what ways is he proposing to make it faster, cheaper and easier for the “good guys” to be here legally? What has he done so far?
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: LordAhriman
No, he was talking about being tough on illegal immigration and how it hurts the country.
For some reason today that stance is immoral.
No it's not. A symbolic wall is though. Trump wants a wall for everlasting fame. A monument of him that could last centuries. Its effectiveness against illegal immigration would be so minuscule, that it's not worth it.
We all want border security. A wall is barely security. That said, I'm all for it if he can get Mexico to pay for it.
On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, "This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform."[1] The bill was introduced on September 13, 2006, by Congressman Peter T. King, Republican of New York. In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283–138 on September 14, 2006.[2] On September 29, 2006, the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80–19.
The fencing built under the 2006 act was not the first border fencing in the United States. The U.S. Border Patrol first began to erect physical barriers in its San Diego sector in 1990.[3] Fourteen miles of fencing were erected along the border of San Diego, California, and Tijuana, Mexico.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: LordAhriman
No, he was talking about being tough on illegal immigration and how it hurts the country.
For some reason today that stance is immoral.
No it's not. A symbolic wall is though. Trump wants a wall for everlasting fame. A monument of him that could last centuries. Its effectiveness against illegal immigration would be so minuscule, that it's not worth it.
We all want border security. A wall is barely security. That said, I'm all for it if he can get Mexico to pay for it.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
You and I agree that we should keep the criminals out, but make it easier for the hard working, but poor immigrants to be here legally. Other than the Dreamer Act, Obama pretty much failed on making the path to citizenship easier and faster.
Can you fill me in on what Trump is doing about this, to make him so much better than Obama? In what ways is he proposing to make it faster, cheaper and easier for the “good guys” to be here legally? What has he done so far?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: network dude
"If you like your plan and doctor... keep em! I'll also lower your insurance premium by $1,250 a year!!"
And people have the nerve to say Trump lies? Give me a break. Obama's lies actually hurt American families.
originally posted by: bastion
It's pretty stupid to think hundred billion dollar industries like human and drug trafficking will disappear because of a wall. It may see a decrease for a month if built but would be rendered useless after that.
By all means crack down on illegal immigration, drugs and major crime but don't waste the money on cheap political soundbites and ineffective measures.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: LordAhriman
No, he was talking about being tough on illegal immigration and how it hurts the country.
For some reason today that stance is immoral.
No it's not. A symbolic wall is though. Trump wants a wall for everlasting fame. A monument of him that could last centuries. Its effectiveness against illegal immigration would be so minuscule, that it's not worth it.
We all want border security. A wall is barely security. That said, I'm all for it if he can get Mexico to pay for it.