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Barack Obama, what an idiot.

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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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I mean, what was this tool thinking here? What a monster! First off, there was no issue with illegal immigration, that was "fake news", just as it it today.

Second, what about the feelz of the one's who want to come here?

I'm sorry, but since anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows, you can't have it both ways, and currently, the bad orange man Trump is singing the same song Obama was here. So let's hear just how stupid Obama was, I think it would ease some tension and let those evil republicans reflect on their atrocities.



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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: network dude

He's not an idiot.
He's a president.
The people that elected him twice? Different story.

No, he's a lawyer and a politician.
That means he knows how to argue for his side of the argument even if he doesnt believe anything he's saying.


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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I don't think he was an idiot so much as the one's who acted like he was a savior.

He was young, charismatic, had incredible speaking skills, and promised hope and change.

He proved to be one of the most effective presidents at selling the establishment status quo to the people under the guise of being "progressive".

He ramped up foreign projection, while balancing support from his base and making the right think he was a p###y.

He gave the private sector health industry the biggest handout ever under the support of his base while having the right call him a socialist.

He went after journalist and whistle blowers at alarming rates while being the golden child for the media.

Patriot act- dude just said hold my beer.

I could go on, but I think that can give the gist.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: network dude

He's not an idiot.
He's a president.
The people that elected him twice? Different story.

No, he's a lawyer and a politician.
That means he knows how to argue for his side of the argument even if he doesnt believe anything he's saying.


Hmmm.

Your's was much more short and eloquent.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

But yours was loquacious......lol



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CriticalStinker

But yours was loquacious......lol


Not the first or last time I'll hear accusations along those lines haha.

Blows my mind though with all the facts and hindsight out there people still act like he was positive for this country as opposed to the inverse.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

I don't think he was an idiot so much as the one's who acted like he was a savior.

He was young, charismatic, had incredible speaking skills, and promised hope and change.

He proved to be one of the most effective presidents at selling the establishment status quo to the people under the guise of being "progressive".

He ramped up foreign projection, while balancing support from his base and making the right think he was a p###y.

He gave the private sector health industry the biggest handout ever under the support of his base while having the right call him a socialist.

He went after journalist and whistle blowers at alarming rates while being the golden child for the media.

Patriot act- dude just said hold my beer.

I could go on, but I think that can give the gist.





had incredible speaking skills

Does not the "I I I ,uhhh , me me me , uhhh , I I I" just exude intelligence ?
I had not heard those type of speeches since the 3rd grade

edit on 1/8/19 by Gothmog because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:47 AM
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Obama was very tough on immigration. More so than any president in my lifetime. I'm at work right now, with shoddy internet, so I can't watch the video. Tell me. Did he say anything about a wall?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: LordAhriman

No, he was talking about being tough on illegal immigration and how it hurts the country.

For some reason today that stance is immoral.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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But what about the poor children Obama?!

You're evil!


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posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: LordAhriman

No, he was talking about being tough on illegal immigration and how it hurts the country.

For some reason today that stance is immoral.


No it's not. A symbolic wall is though. Trump wants a wall for everlasting fame. A monument of him that could last centuries. Its effectiveness against illegal immigration would be so minuscule, that it's not worth it.

We all want border security. A wall is barely security. That said, I'm all for it if he can get Mexico to pay for it.
edit on 8-1-2019 by LordAhriman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog


Does not the "I I I ,uhhh , me me me , uhhh , I I I" just exude intelligence ?
I had not heard those type of speeches since the 3rd grade


The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Personally I think he was a great speaker, not because I liked the content or thought he was genuine, but because it was effective.

But I'm the kind of sick that can s### on someone while complimenting them. I've been in corporate for too long.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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Kids in cages and, since he deported so many, he was "breaking up families".
I can't wait for the mental gymnastics that it'll take to defend Obama/Democrat policies and still screech Orange Man Bad !



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Gothmog


Does not the "I I I ,uhhh , me me me , uhhh , I I I" just exude intelligence ?
I had not heard those type of speeches since the 3rd grade


The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Personally I think he was a great speaker, not because I liked the content or thought he was genuine, but because it was effective.

But I'm the kind of sick that can s### on someone while complimenting them. I've been in corporate for too long.




The proof is in the pudding


Yeah , and I served you a small serving.
There is a much larger bowl for you to finish.




posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I've said time and again I didn't support Obama's immigration policy. I also remember plenty of people on the Right criticizing him for it.

So which is it? Is Trump's immigration policy lacking or was Obama's policy actually sufficient and you all hated him because of the letter next to his name?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


So which is it? Is Trump's immigration policy lacking or was Obama's policy actually sufficient and you all hated him because of the letter next to his name?


I believe the inverse is the point of the thread.

I belive hypocrisy was the theme of Obama's administration and current "platform".



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Gothmog


Does not the "I I I ,uhhh , me me me , uhhh , I I I" just exude intelligence ?
I had not heard those type of speeches since the 3rd grade


The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Personally I think he was a great speaker, not because I liked the content or thought he was genuine, but because it was effective.

But I'm the kind of sick that can s### on someone while complimenting them. I've been in corporate for too long.




The proof is in the pudding


Yeah , and I served you a small serving.
There is a much larger bowl for you to finish.



I believe a good attempt at honesty is better at shedding light on misdeeds.

I also believe in contrast to recent presidents, Obama was more effective at selling himself to vast audiences (even though I've pointed out I think he was the quintessential sellout of our time).

You're welcome to take your approach, though it will just echo in the chambers rather than convincing anyone who disagrees with you.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:22 AM
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You and I agree that we should keep the criminals out, but make it easier for the hard working, but poor immigrants to be here legally. Other than the Dreamer Act, Obama pretty much failed on making the path to citizenship easier and faster.

Can you fill me in on what Trump is doing about this, to make him so much better than Obama? In what ways is he proposing to make it faster, cheaper and easier for the “good guys” to be here legally? What has he done so far?



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

I don't think he was an idiot so much as the one's who acted like he was a savior.

He was young, charismatic, had incredible speaking skills, and promised hope and change.

He proved to be one of the most effective presidents at selling the establishment status quo to the people under the guise of being "progressive".

He ramped up foreign projection, while balancing support from his base and making the right think he was a p###y.

He gave the private sector health industry the biggest handout ever under the support of his base while having the right call him a socialist.

He went after journalist and whistle blowers at alarming rates while being the golden child for the media.

Patriot act- dude just said hold my beer.

I could go on, but I think that can give the gist.


I agree with you on his charisma. I was really against his destruction of the health care system, still am. And the way he just continued the Bush policies, all while blaming Bush for anything that didn't go his way, was weak. But overall, I wasn't all that political or worried about him. I didn't vote for him, but he was the president, and I couldn't stop him from that, since he was elected and all.

But here, he is speaking of stronger border protection and fixing the immigration system as a whole. I and many Americans was behind that then, and am behind it now. My point with this thread was to make the left who so strongly oppose Trump on this, see that they are being used by the MSM to go against themselves, for stupidity sake.

If Obama was so damn good, then listen to him.



posted on Jan, 8 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

I've said time and again I didn't support Obama's immigration policy. I also remember plenty of people on the Right criticizing him for it.

So which is it? Is Trump's immigration policy lacking or was Obama's policy actually sufficient and you all hated him because of the letter next to his name?


I was for it then, and am for it now. And your stories about the right being against it then, well, I don't believe you. The secure fence act was widely accepted and had bi-partisan support. to back it up, or STFU.




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