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If the Plot to Assassinate Hitler had Succeeded

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posted on Jan, 12 2019 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: TheAiIsLying

I think that most of Germany saw through the rhetoric of "Mein Kampf".
Just a casual search of the propaganda films aimed at the 13 year old Hitler Youth would support that notion.
Hardy Krüger starred in both Nazi propoganda films as well as "flight of the Phoenix" 21 years later.




posted on Jan, 12 2019 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: MaxTamesSiva

Nuclear reactors/weapons tests leave behind radioactive traces which are easily detectable and linger for decades if not millennium afterwards

Particularly if one is looking for it

The US had a secret team, ALSOS, to investigate Nazi nuclear program. Their mission was to seize documents and Nazi scientists as the Allies advanced

Did you know that some of the troops landing on D-day carried film badges to measure radiation in case Nazi decided
to attack the beachhead with nuclear wastes - aka Dirty bomb

Or that water samples were taken of major rivers and checked for traces of radiation to determine if Nazi were running a nuclear reactors?

One can easily go to the sites of alleged Nazi reactors or weapons tests and check for radioactivity

Nothing has been found ……..



posted on Jan, 12 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: firerescue
A cursory google search will give us kilo tons of sites to at least make a case or to disprove the claim, some even definitively. Here's a few links:

The Germans and the Nuclear Question by Wolfgang Krieger
New light on Hitler’s bomb
Declassified Files Reopen “Nazi Bomb ” Debate
1944 German Atomic Bomb
Nazi History Hunters Say Hitler's Secret Nuclear Bombs Lie Under Thuringian Forest
First-ever atomic bomb developed by Nazi Germany?
Nuclear Tourism
Here's a funny one:
The Uncertainty of Heisenberg's Nazi Bomb Motivations

I'm no physicist but as understand it, using heavy water is not the only way to enrich uranium as I have replied to AngryCymraeg... should I welcome you to the rabbithole?
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posted on Jan, 12 2019 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: MaxTamesSiva



I'm no physicist


Certainly got that right ………

For one enriching uranium dos not require a reactor

It is based on the slight difference in mass of fissile U 235 and U 238 , U 235 makes up 0.71 percent of uranium

To enrich uranium it is converted into a gas - Uranium Hexafluoride. The uranium was then run through an electromagnetic separator called a Calutron which used the difference in mass to concentrate the U 235 by stages

A second process was gaseous diffusion where the uranium was passed through a porous barrier to concentrate it

Both required enormous amount of electrical power

Reactors require a moderator to slow down the neutrons to keep them escaping the reactor

German used heavy water, Deuterium oxide

US used pure graphite - Germans made a mathematical error in calculating the neutron cross section of graphite , They concluded that graphite was not usable as a moderator

Heavy water came from only one place, Norsk Hydro in Vermok Norway . Norwegian commandos from SOE were able to
severely damage the plant in Feb 1843. Germans attempted to repair the plant which was subject to Allied air raids

Germans attempted to ship the remaining stock of heavy water out, Resistance fighters were able the sink the ferry
carrying the heavy water putting end to German attempts at building a reactor.

Maybe should do some research first and I don't mean from conspiracy loons ………..

Start here

nuclearweaponarchive.org



posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 02:33 AM
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Nice sidestep. I greatly appreciate your emphasis that I'm not a physicist, but did I mention a reactor in my reply to AngryCymraeg? Didn't you just made my point? Isn't the question you're asking is who's looking for traces of radiation from Germany's atomic bomb project and the alleged test?

Obviously, the rabbithole is off limits to you... Got it, research from alternative sources is not worth one's time and heaven forbid, one's consideration.

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posted on Jan, 17 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: AlienView
Alternative history buffs like to speculate on the Nazis winning WWII - Talk about a negative view!

Recently I was reading a biography of Max Planck, the famous German scientist who won the Nobel Prize for his work in Quantum Mechanics
- Both his theories and Einstein's Relativity are probably the most significant discoveries of the 20th Century in physics.

What many probably don't know is that Planck's son was killed in one of the attempts to assassinate Hitler during WWII.

Got me thinking - How different history would be if one of these attempts on Hitler's life had succeeded before the end of WWII.

In my opinion Germany would have immediately looked for an end to the war, especially after it became apparent that they would lose,
offered to give back whatever lands they had conquered and put all the blame on Hitler - saying it wasn't us it was all his fault
- Blamed all the war crimes on Hitler and this may have been accepted and Germany would still have maintained itself as a world power.

What do you think - What would have happened if one of the attempts to assasinate Hitler had succeded


They still would have lost, just faster. Fighting a war on two fronts was a stupid move on hitlers part. And so many other stupid mistakes that deluded idiot made. I would respect hitler as a great military leader, but he really wasn't. He was just a great orator. He could incite people to do the dirt for him. But as a tactical leader, he was crap. If it wasn't for his generals like rommel, he would have never gotten as far as he did.



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