A Permanent Solution To American Shutdowns

It's really simple the President makes an executive order that he doesn't get paid, no congress person or Senator receives their pay when the government is shutdown. First he doesn't care as he is donating his salary, second watch how motivated those congress people get when they can't make their mortgage payment on their DC home or condo. Suddenly just opposing the other party won't be too important because it messes them up personally and that's what we need in this political climate.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I don't think the president has the authority or power to mandate or dictate pay in the legislative branch of government.


It would be a bad thing if an unethical president came into power and abused that control.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33


The "Penny Plan", Consolidation of government agencies that do the same tasks, and government pension conversion to 401K's would quickly create a balanced budget and then there would never be a shutdown.... not to mention long term solvency.

Also, Government employee healthcare should convert to medicaid/medicare... no reason to have different insurance than the people right?

The average savings of the top 10% earners of the US population is $961,570.

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I think that would include most of congress. If they are not already in the 1% (ave. $2.5 mil savings).

So I would imagine that most of them can afford to skip a few paycheck with out too much pain. They certainly won't miss a mortgage payment.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33
Government shut-downs have been built into the American constitution, in that feature which every American praises as one of its great virtues;
"There will be a right hand and a left hand, and the left hand will always have the power to obstruct what the right hand is doing" (I paraphrase).
The way to solve them permananently is to amend the constitution to allow the party that controls the money votes to be the party that runs the government.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

That would work if Senators and Representatives were actually in same economic class as the rest of the country but they aren't. They, for the vast majority of them, are well insulated from the plights of their constituents. You don't see Reps from poor districts even living in the areas they represent.

A line item veto would probably work better.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Blue_Jay33


The "Penny Plan", Consolidation of government agencies that do the same tasks, and government pension conversion to 401K's would quickly create a balanced budget and then there would never be a shutdown.... not to mention long term solvency.

Also, Government employee healthcare should convert to medicaid/medicare... no reason to have different insurance than the people right?

Federal retirements have been by and large converted to a 401K type program called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) since 1986. A TSP serves as a defined-contribution plan designed to give federal employees some of the same retirement-savings benefits offered to workers in the private sector, like a 401K. In the TSP the government employee contributes their own pay into the fund and the government will match up to 5%. The 2019 contribution is $19,000 per person, with an additional $6,000 "catch up" contribution per year if you are over 50.

The only pension received is 1% of your highest 3 year average salary times the number of years worked, and is available only under specific conditions (minimum 10 years worked, military pensions, other pensions, etc.) and after a certain age.

a reply to: infolurker

The Federal Employees Health Benefit (FEHB) Program provides comprehensive health care coverage for federal employees, annuitants, and their families. There is a wide selection of plans to choose from including, "Consumer-Driven and High Deductible plans that offer catastrophic risk protection with higher deductibles, health savings/reimbursable accounts and lower premiums, or Fee-for-Service (FFS) plans, and their Preferred Provider Organizations (PPO), or Health Maintenance Organizations (HMO) if you live (or sometimes if you work) within the area serviced by the plan." There is an open season each year for participants to review and choose other plans if desired.

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These are plans that offer group discounts to Federal workers who participate, similar to other large employer offered plans. These are market plans from existing insurance companies that are the same as open market plans.

For a list of pricing by state, coverage type, deductable, etc. see the link below:

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it might help

draging them out to time sqare and killing
1 every hr on the hr is the only garentee

since the above is abit to far i mean if we did that no one would take the job

i sugest a fine of 3% of there net worth per day the govt is shutdown after a reasonable amount of time like 30 days or so and once they can no longer pay the fine they no longer have a job

that gives them 2 months of wiggle room to negotiate if you cant do your job in 2 months gtfo

to bad they would have to pass a law to put this on themselfs we all know that will never be done

I’m sure high-ranking government officials, such as Senators and Congressional Representatives will find their banks and mortgage-holders very accommodating with regards to allowing payment delays and extensions.

And I’m also pretty sure that the banking and financial industry lobbyists would, in turn, find many an eager and receptive ear in the House and Senate following the resolution of the present difficulties.

Not likely to happen...you gotta show a birth certificate after youre elected President.

Even if you dont pay your taxes on your Russian profits...it might come out some day after youre elected.

The system blocks all unethical folks. Sleep soundly.




a reply to: DBCowboy

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

If you truly think he is donating his salary, than you are dumber than your avatar. This is a man who took money donated to his charity from WWE and re-gifted or re-donated it to another charity. A man who cashed a .13 cent check (done as part of a social experiment.) He is as cheap as the day is long he ain't donating sh*t.

patch.com...

Easy solution to prevent shutdowns is that employers are no longer required to withhold federal income taxes from paychecks.

And just like that, problem solved.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33


Many of these people are multi-millionaires so a few hundred thousand isn't going to hurt them in the pocket.