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posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: Guyfriday


A wise man once stated that:
"the greatest lie ever told is telling a person what their choices are, while taking away any other choices they really had"



heh.

I opined to someone who told me that we had a choice in our elections.

My response was that we get to choose from whom they decide.




posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer




Well sure, but if you flayed a primitive man and Mozart (without DNA sequencing) we couldn't discern one from the other. Heck, I'm hard pressed to think of even minor evolution that can't be explained away simply by access to good diet. I actually agree with the title of your OP, I'm just focused on the fact that we're mentally/physiologically less than 1 degree away from a spot in the zoo ourselves.


You are speaking scientifically.

Now, imagine you are having a live encounter with someone from 200,000 years ago. Are you guys gonna play Super Smash Brothers together, or just smash each others faces in?




edit on 4-1-2019 by DeReK DaRkLy because: pluralizationz



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn



I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. You certainly didn't clarify the statements you made, nor did you address the points I made.


Well then... as we are at a confusing intersection here... please clarify your points, because I thought I really understood them, then I will proceed accordingly.

See, I feel there is no truly concise or agreed upon definition of human nature. Humans can be anything... healers, killers. Come to think of it, animals can be those things too.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: DeReK DaRkLy
a reply to: Wayfarer




Well sure, but if you flayed a primitive man and Mozart (without DNA sequencing) we couldn't discern one from the other. Heck, I'm hard pressed to think of even minor evolution that can't be explained away simply by access to good diet. I actually agree with the title of your OP, I'm just focused on the fact that we're mentally/physiologically less than 1 degree away from a spot in the zoo ourselves.


You are speaking scientifically.

Now, imagine you are having a live encounter with someone from 200,000 years ago. Are you guys gonna play Super Smash Brothers together, or just smash each others faces in?





I get what you're saying bud, Modern Man with all his education and technology and nutrition would easily eclipse his counterpart 200k years ago.

What I'm saying is if you went back in time 200k years ago and snatched a newborn human to the present, they would likely be indistinguishable from any of us.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer



What I'm saying is if you went back in time 200k years ago and snatched a newborn human to the present, they would likely be indistinguishable from any of us.


I've already pointed out you are speaking scientifically. I get it... humans are humans are humans. So what? This thread is about global society, not genetics, hence the forum I posted it in.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy




Well then... as we are at a confusing intersection here... please clarify your points, because I thought I really understood them, then I will proceed accordingly.


I've clarified my statements in a few posts already. What more do you need?

You still haven't addressed my points and have, instead, decided to go down a different path deviating from my plain meaning. Not sure why.




See, I feel there is no truly concise or agreed upon definition of human nature.


I'm asking you to stop "feeling" whether there's a true definition and actually look it up. I gave a good reference in my previous post. Please follow up on it, I promise it will be illuminating in this regard.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: DeReK DaRkLy

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

We haven't changed. Not really. This is why our institutions are so important and our concept of ordered liberty is so important to hold onto.


You must not believe in scientific evolution then. A bit short-sighted, perhaps?


We are 3 missed meals away from a total lack of civilization.


Unless you can hunt instead of browsing the aisles at the mini-mart.

Hello? Is this thing on??
Civilization IS the experiment. It does progress, despite the naysayers.

The point of this thread is SLOW DOWN and think.



[snip] it would be hard to find a difference between modern man now and homo sapiens 200k years ago.


You mean Modern Democrats now and Homo Sapiens 200k years ago right? 😆



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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I'm asking you to stop "feeling" whether there's a true definition and actually look it up.


Look it up? Really? Your argument comes down to "look it up"...?

Look it up where? Why don't you define it here and save me the time, since you already know.
How long could a definition be, anyway? =)




posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


What do you mean? You are already living on a slave planet.. You work right? Some kind of income to survive on? You are taxed to death are you not? You are a slave.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: xuenchen


What do you mean? You are already living on a slave planet.. You work right? Some kind of income to survive on? You are taxed to death are you not? You are a slave.


Finally... someone who gets it. Money is your God, people. You worship on Fridays, remember?


edit on 4-1-2019 by DeReK DaRkLy because: sp



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

I ALREADY GAVE YOU THE REFERENCE.

I'm done here.

You're insufferably dense.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: xuenchen


What do you mean? You are already living on a slave planet.. You work right? Some kind of income to survive on? You are taxed to death are you not? You are a slave.


Having the option to work and being forced to work is two different things. We don't have a slave planet since we can if we choose, not work. In a slave world if you choose not to work, than you are forced to work or die. There is the difference.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

By dense you mean eloquent and well polished?

I feel ya, G...



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday




We don't have a slave planet since we can if we choose, not work.


Or not to eat? Great options there. Unless you can hunt, but I already covered that.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Well dude/dudette if I didn't work to support myself and others I take care of than how the hell am I suppose to survive? such a weird reply in my opinion....



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: DeReK DaRkLy

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: DeReK DaRkLy

We haven't changed. Not really. This is why our institutions are so important and our concept of ordered liberty is so important to hold onto.


You must not believe in scientific evolution then. A bit short-sighted, perhaps?


We are 3 missed meals away from a total lack of civilization.


Unless you can hunt instead of browsing the aisles at the mini-mart.

Hello? Is this thing on??
Civilization IS the experiment. It does progress, despite the naysayers.

The point of this thread is SLOW DOWN and think.



[snip] it would be hard to find a difference between modern man now and homo sapiens 200k years ago.


You mean Modern Democrats now and Homo Sapiens 200k years ago right? 😆


In a bizarre twist this was so low effort I went full circle and actually chuckled.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: MarlbBlack




Well dude/dudette if I didn't work to support myself and others I take care of than how the hell am I suppose to survive?


But isn't this the downfall of civilization?

Alternatively, either you hunt your own food, or it's provided for you.
I'd choose the former. F-socialism/communism and F-caveman law.



Come together. Shut up and stop arguing. Start cooperating, geniuses.


edit on 4-1-2019 by DeReK DaRkLy because: pondering my own grammar



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: Wayfarer




this was so low effort


You know what's low effort? Getting a welfare check.


edit on 4-1-2019 by DeReK DaRkLy because: alcohol



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: DeReK DaRkLy
a reply to: Guyfriday








We don't have a slave planet since we can if we choose, not work.





Or not to eat? Great options there. Unless you can hunt, but I already covered that.


But you have options which under a slave planet rule you wouldn't.



originally posted by: MarlbBlack
a reply to: Guyfriday

Well dude/dudette if I didn't work to support myself and others I take care of than how the hell am I suppose to survive? such a weird reply in my opinion....


The "Guy" in Guyfriday makes me a dude, but your excused because in this day and age one can never be to sure.

I'm not saying it would be easy but you can live off the land, as I stated about in this multi-reply though in a slave world you don't have that option.



posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday




But you have options which under a slave planet rule you wouldn't.


Most of the land is already claimed..
Hard to be a pioneer and claim a piece of the Earth today without financial slavery.


edit on 4-1-2019 by DeReK DaRkLy because: drunk




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