President Trump Says He May Declare a National Emergency to Get The US-Mex Border Wall Built.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

That's the most idiotic piece of tripe I've seen.

Or constitution calls for military to be used to protect our border much more than it does to fight wars half way across the world.

He absolutely should declare a national emergency. It has been a national emergency for decades now and no one has done Jack about it. Enough is enough, it's time to do something about it.

Jaden

a reply to: Masterjaden

How can it be considered a national emergency when the world still spins, the sky has not fallen, and people still go about there daily business the same as any other day?

Trumps your real national emergency imho, he is the one threatening to close down the government and chuck his toys out the pram should he not be given additional pocket monies to build nonsensical walls.

a reply to: carewemust

BREAKING: President Trump considering declaring a national emergency to circumvent congressional approval to allocate funds for border wall:

“We can call a national emergency because of the security of our country... I haven’t done it, I may do it.”

This is the presidential equivalent of a 3 year old throwing a tantrum in the candy aisle at the grocery store.

originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Sookiechacha

That's the most idiotic piece of tripe I've seen.

Or constitution calls for military to be used to protect our border much more than it does to fight wars half way across the world.

He absolutely should declare a national emergency. It has been a national emergency for decades now and no one has done Jack about it. Enough is enough, it's time to do something about it.

Jaden

We are not a war with Mexico, like Israel is with Palestine.

A wall simply is not the answer the answer to the refugee crisis at the southern border. It's inhumane, immoral, terrible for the environment, expensive to build and even more expensive to maintain, It's ineffective, as people can still go over, under or around a wall.

Trump doesn't even have a plan, know exactly where the wall will go, filed for eminent domain from American property owners, have a wall design or any environmental impact statements, because he doesn't have a wall design yet!

This whole thing is a national farce, the president's petulant demands, the government shut down, the American people being held hostage, the filth, the economic ramification, the airports at risk, and TSA agents not being paid and calling in sick by the hundreds, airport controllers not being paid.

Too late, its already built!

Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback!

Source of a genius

Does he have dementia or advanced dementia?

Seriously... does Nancy Pelosi receive intel briefings that tell her something different from the briefings that the Secretary of Homeland Security receives?

Nancy doesn't believe DHS: www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Let me be clear. The present policies of the DNC (no physical barrier, no limits on asylum, no vetting of immigrants, legal challenges to all deportation, official protection of illegal aliens, catch and release) are absolutely in favor of open borders.

TheRedneck

a reply to: andy06shake

How can it be considered a national emergency when the world still spins, the sky has not fallen, and people still go about there daily business the same as any other day?

Not everyone.

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The funeral starts in a little over an hour.

TheRedneck

It's not a national emergency. We've had about the same issues with the southern border for decades and decades. Now all of a sudden it's a national emergency because someone made a campaign promise.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Pelosi should submit a bill requiring removal of physical barriers that already exist between the U.S. and Mexico.

originally posted by: amazing
It's not a national emergency. We've had about the same issues with the southern border for decades and decades. Now all of a sudden it's a national emergency because someone made a campaign promise.

One person's "emergency" is another person's "campaign promise". Fortunately for the thousands of families forever hurt by illegal aliens and drugs coming across that border, the person WHO MATTERS, Donald Trump, sees it as an emergency.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Let me be clear. The present policies of the DNC (no physical barrier, no limits on asylum, no vetting of immigrants, legal challenges to all deportation, official protection of illegal aliens, catch and release) are absolutely in favor of open borders.

TheRedneck

Citation please! When did the Dems declare their objection to The Secure Fence Act? When did the Dems call to eliminate our international treaty agreements?

a reply to: TheRedneck

Any sane person who clicks your link, and realizes it could be one of their relatives, will be for maximum border security, if they weren't before.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: amazing
It's not a national emergency. We've had about the same issues with the southern border for decades and decades. Now all of a sudden it's a national emergency because someone made a campaign promise.

One person's "emergency" is another person's "campaign promise". Fortunately for the thousands of families forever hurt by illegal aliens and drugs coming across that border, the person WHO MATTERS, Donald Trump, sees it as an emergency.

The problem though is that this has been going on since when Nixon was president and longer than that really. So why is it suddenly an emergency now? I get that we have to do stuff to secure our border, and if you google it you'll see that we actually have a very good border patrol agency that has been doing a good job for decades.

Going back to our last republican president, why didn't George Bush think it was an emergency?

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Let me be clear. The present policies of the DNC (no physical barrier, no limits on asylum, no vetting of immigrants, legal challenges to all deportation, official protection of illegal aliens, catch and release) are absolutely in favor of open borders.

TheRedneck

Citation please! When did the Dems declare their objection to The Secure Fence Act? When did the Dems call to eliminate our international treaty agreements?

The 2006 "Secure Fence Act": en.wikipedia.org...

That fence/barrier is 649 miles long, but apparently not high and deep enough.

The fence is routinely climbed or otherwise circumvented.[9] The GAO reported in 2017 that both pedestrian and vehicle barriers have been defeated by various methods, including using ramps to drive vehicles "up and over" vehicle fencing in the sector; scaling, jumping over, or breaching pedestrian fencing; burrowing or tunneling underground; and even using small aircraft.

New York Times op-ed writer Lawrence Downes wrote in 2013: "A climber with a rope can hop it in less than half a minute. ... Smugglers with jackhammers tunnel under it.

They throw drugs and rocks over it.

The fence is breached not just by sunlight and shadows, but also the hooded gaze of drug-cartel lookouts, and by bullets.

Border agents describe their job as an unending battle of wits, a cat-mouse game with the constant threat of violence

If you truly want to seal the border, the easiest way to close the landlocked areas is:


Razor wire...500 yards of mine fields.......razor wire.


Post multiple warnings along with a motion activated speaker system that warns of imminent death if you cross the razor wire.


Never happen, but it is a lot cheaper than building a wall which will be easily breached anyways.


Call it....Tough Love.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: amazing
It's not a national emergency. We've had about the same issues with the southern border for decades and decades. Now all of a sudden it's a national emergency because someone made a campaign promise.

One person's "emergency" is another person's "campaign promise". Fortunately for the thousands of families forever hurt by illegal aliens and drugs coming across that border, the person WHO MATTERS, Donald Trump, sees it as an emergency.

Going back to our last republican president, why didn't George Bush think it was an emergency?

American citizens eventually got "fed up" with escalating crime, human, drug-trafficking.

I don't think if George Bush or Barack Obama had ran on "BUILD THAT WALL!", it would have elicited as much emotion back then.

a reply to: kelbtalfenek


Trump would be irresponsible if he did not notify the appropriate agencies to start considering contingency plans.
For example if the Federal food stamp program runs out of money, the States will likely need to be given the option of paying for the food stamp programs out of the State emergency funds. Alternatively for poor states there have already been military drills staging FEMA resources in large stores such as Walmart. Local authorities might need to add buses, and transportation resources in that event.

All this would take time to implement and require a national emergency, very responsible of Trump to start thinking about this now. We will learn more as the stage planning develops for these contingency plans before the food stamp termination deadline in February.

a reply to: carewemust


You haven't shown me where the Democrats have disavowed the Secure Fence Act or our international treaties and quota commitments.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: amazing
It's not a national emergency. We've had about the same issues with the southern border for decades and decades. Now all of a sudden it's a national emergency because someone made a campaign promise.

One person's "emergency" is another person's "campaign promise". Fortunately for the thousands of families forever hurt by illegal aliens and drugs coming across that border, the person WHO MATTERS, Donald Trump, sees it as an emergency.

Going back to our last republican president, why didn't George Bush think it was an emergency?

American citizens eventually got "fed up" with escalating crime, human, drug-trafficking.

I don't think if George Bush or Barack Obama had ran on "BUILD THAT WALL!", it would have elicited as much emotion back then.

Don't get me wrong, we need some border protections and I think every president needs to look at the situation and make adjustments. And Trump is, but I think he's being dishonest when he says it's an emergency.