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The wall worked for the Chinese and Turkey. What about all those Castles with Moats?
originally posted by: RickinVa
It's only a matter of time before a WMD is slipped across the border.
The southern border is the prime place to do it, because they can blend in better with the local population.
Don't think God has much to say at all where nonsensical walls are concerned, aside from The wall of Jericho, and look how that turned out.
I think its safe to assume the big dude don't like walls much.
occurs 179 times in 163 verses in the KJV.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
Illegal crossings are at an all time low. If it wasn't a national emergency when the numbers were higher I doubt it will be found so now.
No matter if you " doubt it" or not.
originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Sookiechacha
What is your fix and Master Plan. I may agree with it. Off topic but all of those priests should be Castrated for what they did to those kids
How did the wall work for the Chinese? LoL
For a while like but i think the Mongols kicked there arse a few times, it also did not stop people per-say but armed invasion forces.
The Great Wall of China is a series of fortifications made of stone, brick, tamped earth, wood, and other materials, generally built along an east-to-west line across the historical northern borders of China to protect the Chinese states and empires against the raids and invasions of the various nomadic groups of the Eurasian Steppe with an eye to expansion. Several walls were being built as early as the 7th century BC; these, later joined together and made bigger and stronger, are collectively referred to as the Great Wall. Especially famous is the wall built in 220–206 BC by Qin Shi Huang, the first Emperor of China. Little of that wall remains. The Great Wall has been rebuilt, maintained, and enhanced over various dynasties; the majority of the existing wall is from the Ming Dynasty (1368–1644). Apart from defense, other purposes of the Great Wall have included border controls, allowing the imposition of duties on goods transported along the Silk Road, regulation or encouragement of trade and the control of immigration and emigration. Furthermore, the defensive characteristics of the Great Wall were enhanced by the construction of watch towers, troop barracks, garrison stations, signaling capabilities through the means of smoke or fire, and the fact that the path of the Great Wall also served as a transportation corridor. The frontier walls built by different dynasties have multiple courses. Collectively, they stretch from Dandong in the east to Lop Lake in the west, from present-day Sino-Russian border in the north to Qinghai in the south; along an arc that roughly delineates the edge of Mongolian steppe. A comprehensive archaeological survey, using advanced technologies, has concluded that the walls built by the Ming dynasty measure 8,850 km (5,500 mi). This is made up of 6,259 km (3,889 mi) sections of actual wall, 359 km (223 mi) of trenches and 2,232 km (1,387 mi) of natural defensive barriers such as hills and rivers. Another archaeological survey found that the entire wall with all of its branches measures out to be 21,196 km (13,171 mi). Today, the Great Wall is generally recognized as one of the most impressive architectural feats in history.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
As for the Mongols? If they "kicked China's arse" why is there still a China?
The Yuan Dynasty (1279–1368) was China's first foreign-led dynasty, in between the Chinese Song and Ming dynasties. It was established by Kublai Khan, leader of the vast Mongol Empire
Although a useful deterrent against raids, at several points throughout its history the Great Wall failed to stop enemies, including in 1644 when the Manchu Qing marched through the gates of Shanhai Pass and replaced the most ardent of the wall-building dynasties, the Ming, as rulers of China.
the Tang (618–907), the Song (960–1279), the Yuan (1271–1368), and the Qing (1644–1911) mostly did not build frontier walls, instead opting for other solutions to the Inner Asian threat like military campaigning and diplomacy.