President Trump Says He May Declare a National Emergency to Get The US-Mex Border Wall Built.

a reply to: murphy22

"War is the continuation of politics by other means." Carl von Clausewitz

There is no good or evil those are human constructs we come away with to justify our actions towards one another, no more, no less.

Shades of grey mate, but war is generally to the detriment of the poor and needy rather than the bastards with the guns.

a reply to: ker2010

If it already is a second-rate nation then how can it become so in due time?

I imagine America, just like the UK, is just fine for those that have the monies and lifestyle, thus enjoy existence rather than have to toil for peanuts, whilst the rich line there pockets with money and their misery.

Life, "they" say is, what you make of it, but you play the hand you are dealt, else you don't play at all really.

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: okrian

As a Democrat you should remember that Obama set the precedent when he used executive orders like royal decrees.

You guys were all about letting a Democrat president have all the power without considering what would happen when someone else took the reigns.

Short sighted fuzzy thinking at it's finest.

This is the bed Democrats made.

Too late to whine about it now.

It's a bed Trump made by promising in his campaign the wall - his version of a wall - would be built if he became president, the winning argument was that Mexico would pay, not the USA. Mexico won't pay, regardless of the Trump BS, so Trump decides that to save face Congress should agree to spend money on something that they never agreed to.

It's not that hard to actually see, is it?

a reply to: carewemust

I absolutely despise the Democrats and everything they stand for, but I just hope that Trump isn't the best Troll ever, who has gained the trust of the American people and is using all of this chaos as a reason to install a Police State. When FEMA starts working...people seem to disappear by the thousands. Camps or death is the rumor..but nevertheless, many unexplainable disappearances happen on their watch.

Good, it is time to move against the enemies of freedom.

a reply to: uncommitted

So the people pay for Trumps ludicrous nonsensical gum bumping instead???

That's some serious breach of the notion of the democratic process imho.

At least if he had gone on, and on, and on, and on, about say the likes of returning to the Moon, then made you pay for that, your nation would actually get something out of the whole debacle, other than an unimplementable wall.

a reply to: moyeti

Mate the bankers and corporations, nevermind the politicians that "They" have their hand so far up there back passage they could pick their teeth, are not going anywhere anytime soon.

How do you move against the very people that facilitate you with the illusion of freedom and security in the first place?

It's a sticky wicket if ever there was one, that's a given.

The emergency is the noxious, demonic presidency of Donald Trump

A wall is never going to stop drugs spreading across America.
That wall isn't going to keep people in or out either because you can swim or fly over it, Mexico just needs a law for all men and women to be neutered, so the economy fixes itself and qualify of life gets better.

If people want to do drugs you can't stop them from doing it. a lot of demand for drugs. If people have problem with drugs they go see a specialist to help control themselves.

The one drug that is the most threat to America is Fentanyl. When that gets mixed with heroin that will cause an overdose.
Many people don't know or realise just how dangerous Fent is. And I'm pretty sure a lot of the Fentanyl and Methamphetamine production is in America itself, I've also read recently about a Fentanyl problem in China.

But yes, the Wall won't prevent either migrants invading or keep the drugs out.
The problem lies with overpopulation in countries with no breed control.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: uncommitted

So the people pay for Trumps ludicrous nonsensical gum bumping instead???

That's some serious breach of the notion of the democratic process imho.

At least if he had gone on, and on, and on, and on, about say the likes of returning to the Moon, then made you pay for that, your nation would actually get something out of the whole debacle, other than an unimplementable wall.

I think I'm the same nation as you?

a reply to: carewemust

I hope he does before its too late for all of us. GOD BLESS AMERICA

a reply to: uncommitted

If the UK then yes i imagine you are.

We tried a crazy wall a few thousand years back, or some dude call Hadrian did anyway, did not stop the Picts much nor trade or travel in ether direction.

Its a pointless exercise really, akin to nothing more than a 2-dimensional solution to 3-dimensional problem.

I think because Trump has issue with the likes of simple stairs, nevermind walls, he imagines any and all able-bodied determined persons we experience the same silly old senile bastard that he is. LoL

a reply to: Waterglass

Don't think God has much to say at all where nonsensical walls are concerned, aside from The wall of Jericho, and look how that turned out.

I think its safe to assume the big dude don't like walls much.

a reply to: andy06shake

The wall worked for the Chinese and Turkey. What about all those Castles with Moats? I am a new bee so is use of the word "God" taboo on ATS because if so I will delete it and stop using it as free speech does not have to recognized by ATS as ATS is a sovereign web site governed by its own rules.

a reply to: Carcharadon


In the first place, most of our food is actually grown in rural California, and California isn't going to side with Indiana in the "second civil war."

In the second place, we would simply cut off your supply of statins, opiates and insulin.

Checkmate.

DJ Trump won't issue an executive order to build the wall. Doing so would put an end to the current gambit which is working so well for him. Just look at his approval numbers

He threatens it so that it looks like he is unhappy with the current situation, or that he is in search of a solution to the "border crisis."

He most certainly is not.

He is just painting the floor, day by day. He is painting the Democrat party into a corner, and they are in the process of yanking the brush out of his tiny hands and finishing the last few yards themselves.

They are allowing themselves to be portrayed as the party of "no borders." He and his people inside the Republican Party will use that in 2020 like nothing you've seen in your lifetime, unless you watched Reagan carry 49 states in his re-election.


Trump is planning a massive election in 2020. It'll be yuge.

a reply to: Waterglass

How did the wall work for the Chinese? LoL

For a while like but i think the Mongols kicked there arse a few times, it also did not stop people per-say but armed invasion forces.

Far as I'm aware we can say God as much as we like, we can even talk about Mohammed in woman's underwear, we just can draw pictures.

Freedom is illusory mate, just one we cannot live without, still its a fallacy, just a rather endearing prospect.

a reply to: andy06shake

Who were the Chinese trying to keep out?

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: carewemust

I hope he does before its too late for all of us. GOD BLESS AMERICA

FWIW...Obama and Hillary are now on Trump's side.

www.foxnews.com...

Not that it matters much. He doesn't need them.

a reply to: carewemust

Invaders per-chance?

Don't know about refugees nor migrant workers.

Although im lead to believe certain portions of the great wall contain quite a few of the workers own bones and graves.