What to expect if the 9/11 truth bomb does drop

a reply to: twitchy

Start with this;

9/11 and the Science
of Controlled Demolitions

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3WHAT ABOUT THE ALMOST FREE-FALL COLLAPSE OF THE TWIN TOWERS? The key is the “almost” modifier. If I told you I was making almost $100,000 and you found out I was making only $67,000, you’d say I was exaggerating. So stop exaggerating the collapse speed of the WTC Towers! The 80,000 tons of structural steel slowed down the collapses of the Twin Towers to about ⅔ (two-thirds) of free-fall.3 And the core collapsed at about 40% of free-fall speed, coming down last.4 According to Richard Gage: “To bring a building symmetrically down, what we have to do is remove the core columns.” But on 9/11 the stronger core columns came down last, which violates this supposed most fundamental rule of controlled demolition.

Just in case you missed the key point.

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And the core collapsed at about 40% of free-fall speed, coming down last.4 According to Richard Gage: “To bring a building symmetrically down, what we have to do is remove the core columns.” But on 9/11 the stronger core columns came down last, which violates this supposed most fundamental rule of controlled demolition.

Below, video evidence the core columns toppled because of losing lateral support of the floors systems which collapsed first.

The core columns fell last.

WTC 1 core collapse
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Visible core columns
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World Trade Centre Core Collapsing
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9/11 Footage shows core of both towers standing; Debunks Basement BombsTheory
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Below evidence the floor system and floor connections were stripped from still standing core and outer vertical columns.

Failure of Welded Floor Truss Connections from the Exterior Wall during Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers
Failure of connections, as a result of overloading, occurred within the heat-affected zone of the base metals

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Summary
Analysis of the connections supporting the composite floor system of the WTC towers showed that at and below the im- pact floors, the greater majority (above 90%) of the floor truss connections were either bent downward or completely re- moved from the exterior column. This was probably related to the overloading of the floors below the impact region after col- lapse initiation. Depending upon weld joint geometry, detachment of the main load-bearing seats was a result of either fracture in the heat affected zone of the base material (standoff plate detached from spandrel) or through the weld metal (seat angle detached from standoff plate). Failure in both cases was assumed to be a result of a shear mechanism as a result of overloading from floors above impacting those below. There did not appear to be a significant change in distribution of failure modes of the floor truss connections when comparing those connections inside vs. outside of the impact region or those ex- posed to pre-collapse fires and those that were not.

After the initial bowing of the outer vertical columns that lead to buckling, the up floors falling in to the building below, the falling mass broke floor connections. The core columns fell in the wake of the collapsing floor system.

Now. What evidence do you have the twin towers of “steel framed high rises don't glide through otherwise intact understructure at near freefall speed without a universal loss of structural support from the central columns, which is only possible in a controlled demolition or a fairy tale.”

The path of least resistance for the twin towers was the floor connections to the vertical columns.

a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: kwakakev

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: kwakakev

does the " 9/11 truth bomb " even exist ?

For the sake of this thread, lets say it does. From what I have seen, an inside job where all three WTC buildings where brought down by controlled demolition is the most reasonable explanation to account for the damage that was done.

They why is there no evidence of CD in the video, audio, seismic, metallurgical evidence. Because there was no planted pyrotechnics. There was no CD.

The evidence of a controlled demolition is incontrovertible, maybe you missed the memo or are simply suffering a serious case of cognitive dissonance but steel framed high rises don't glide through otherwise intact understructure at near freefall speed without a universal loss of structural support from the central columns, which is only possible in a controlled demolition or a fairy tale.

Did you miss the central columns still standing after the collapse?

Of course you did.

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: kwakakev

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: kwakakev

does the " 9/11 truth bomb " even exist ?

For the sake of this thread, lets say it does. From what I have seen, an inside job where all three WTC buildings where brought down by controlled demolition is the most reasonable explanation to account for the damage that was done.

They why is there no evidence of CD in the video, audio, seismic, metallurgical evidence. Because there was no planted pyrotechnics. There was no CD.

The evidence of a controlled demolition is incontrovertible, maybe you missed the memo or are simply suffering a serious case of cognitive dissonance but steel framed high rises don't glide through otherwise intact understructure at near freefall speed without a universal loss of structural support from the central columns, which is only possible in a controlled demolition or a fairy tale.

Did you miss the central columns still standing after the collapse?

Of course you did.

I guess I am bad about this too........

You expect a person to read through a thread before stating debunked claims!

The conspiracists way is to state every argument as if it is new and fresh every time it is posted. No matter how much video is provided, or how many credible sources citing actual evidence is cited. While ignoring the DNA testing, the metallurgy of the twin towers, coroner’s reports, physical evidence, the steel columns on display around the world, the ticket purchases, the money trails, the evidence from the terrorist’s personal life........

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: kwakakev

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: kwakakev

does the " 9/11 truth bomb " even exist ?

For the sake of this thread, lets say it does. From what I have seen, an inside job where all three WTC buildings where brought down by controlled demolition is the most reasonable explanation to account for the damage that was done.

They why is there no evidence of CD in the video, audio, seismic, metallurgical evidence. Because there was no planted pyrotechnics. There was no CD.

The evidence of a controlled demolition is incontrovertible, maybe you missed the memo or are simply suffering a serious case of cognitive dissonance but steel framed high rises don't glide through otherwise intact understructure at near freefall speed without a universal loss of structural support from the central columns, which is only possible in a controlled demolition or a fairy tale.

Did you miss the central columns still standing after the collapse?

Of course you did.

I guess I am bad about this too........

You expect a person to read through a thread before stating debunked claims!

The conspiracists way is to state every argument as if it is new and fresh every time it is posted. No matter how much video is provided, or how many credible sources citing actual evidence is cited. While ignoring the DNA testing, the metallurgy of the twin towers, coroner’s reports, physical evidence, the steel columns on display around the world, the ticket purchases, the money trails, the evidence from the terrorist’s personal life........

BELIEVE!

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: kwakakev

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: kwakakev

does the " 9/11 truth bomb " even exist ?

For the sake of this thread, lets say it does. From what I have seen, an inside job where all three WTC buildings where brought down by controlled demolition is the most reasonable explanation to account for the damage that was done.

They why is there no evidence of CD in the video, audio, seismic, metallurgical evidence. Because there was no planted pyrotechnics. There was no CD.

The evidence of a controlled demolition is incontrovertible, maybe you missed the memo or are simply suffering a serious case of cognitive dissonance but steel framed high rises don't glide through otherwise intact understructure at near freefall speed without a universal loss of structural support from the central columns, which is only possible in a controlled demolition or a fairy tale.

Did you miss the central columns still standing after the collapse?

Of course you did.

I guess I am bad about this too........

You expect a person to read through a thread before stating debunked claims!

The conspiracists way is to state every argument as if it is new and fresh every time it is posted. No matter how much video is provided, or how many credible sources citing actual evidence is cited. While ignoring the DNA testing, the metallurgy of the twin towers, coroner’s reports, physical evidence, the steel columns on display around the world, the ticket purchases, the money trails, the evidence from the terrorist’s personal life........

BELIEVE!

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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

How about posting some evidence of a steel framed high rise suffering a universal footprint collapse due to fire prior to 9/11. Good luck. Any of the collapse models, NIST's for sample, account for the micronization of the concrete in WTC 1 or WTC 2 yet? No? Hmmmm...
Another often overlooked aspect of the events of that day was the mysterious explosion captured and broadcast by CNN at 9:04am.

A few seconds after the impact of the second tower, there was a huge explosion in the area between the North Tower, WTC 1, and WTC 7, an area commonly known as WTC 6. That explosion would gut even the basement levels of the building and leave a massive crater about eighty foot deep in the center of the building. This happened before either of the towers collapsed, and it was broadcast live on television.
Assuming of course that no Jet Fuel ran down the elevator shafts of the towers and walked across to WTC 6 to cause this massive explosion, what would explain that event? Get a real good hard look at that crater... that explosion happened before either WTC 1&2 towers collapsed.

Looks alot like the remnants of another job CDI worked on a few years before in Oklahoma, no?
Here's a high resolution photograph of the remains of WTC 6...

Notice the huge crater? Keeping in mind that all that debris from the collapse of WTC 1 hit the area immediately around this crater, it didn't manage to dig an eighty foot EMPTY round hole into the rest of the area. Falling steel doesn't excavate 80 foot craters and then leave them empty and near symmetrical. Large explosions ejecting building material upwards and outwards can though, and it's hard to debunk an empty crater especially since the actual explosion was caught on CNN's live broadcast and widely reported before the collapses overtook the narrative.
I watched CNN live the morning it happened, and I remember seeing the plume, but not what time this footage was broadcast. From what I've read however, CNN confirmed the time of that footage was just after the second impact just as the caption says... but some have incorrectly stated that it was during the actual collapse of WTC 2. Well let's look a little better at the picture then, and ask ourselves how do you reckon CNN's angle on this shot managed to hide the entire left side of this event going on behind WTC 1 ?

The huge dust cloud you see in the first pic is undeniably coming from the area of WTC 5 and WTC 6, not WTC 2, and it is clearly an explosion, and it was reported as 'some kind of explosion'.
What's the Official Story's take on the blast craters found in WTC 5 and WTC 6, and where did all the material from the eight floors of WTC 6 go? Where did all the falling debris that supposedly punched this round vertical hole go? It's an empty crater. If massive of piles of falling steel and debris caused these holes in WTC 5 and WTC 6, why isn't there massive piles of steel and debris on the remainder of the rooftops of these buildings and why are these craters instead of rubble piles?

We need to take another look at the extensive improvements and inspections done to the WTC complex by Turner Construction Company prior to 9-11, how their company's president rose to the high position of Mayor of a major US city, and how they might have had unique access to Navy Seal Demolitions Equipment... or we might go into the whole Kroll, John O'Neil, Jerome Hauer thing, or maybe even into the intelligence operations conducted at various flight schools that go all the way back from Oswald and JFK up Mena AK and Iran Contra to Mohamed Atta. Even with the destruction of physical evidence, this case is still solvable IMO.

You've got a lot of material to cover if you're going to debunk the Conspiracy Theories surrounding 9/11, here's a couple links to get you started.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

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I trust you are familiar with the term 'slag'? Notice the angular cut column, as well as RESCUE personnel. You're not one of those is going to try to claim they were cutting those columns during the initial rescue operations are you?

a reply to: twitchy

A few seconds after the impact of the second tower, there was a huge explosion in the area between the North Tower, WTC 1, and WTC 6.

Then it should be easy for you to post audio evidence of such an explosion that was from the detonation of pyrotechnics with the force to cut steel columns.

But what does your rant have to do with the twin towers collapse initiations were without explosions with audio indicate of a force greate enough to cut steel columns? There is no video evidence of columns being cut, only buckling. The floor systems failed first at the floor connections, then the vertical columns fell in the wake of the collapse of the floor system, the core columns fell at 40 percent the rate of free fall, and core columns stood whole seconds after the complete collapse of the floors systems?

Is any of the above false?

a reply to: twitchy

Can you cite actual physical evidence of detonations with the force to cut steel columns. Such as the ejection of demolition shrapnel. Specially in the sense there were no traps or water drums to contain splintered steel of a supposed CD?

Katie Bender's family commemorate 20 years since Royal Canberra Hospital implosion

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Seconds after the explosion on that Sunday afternoon, Katie was was killed instantly by a steel fragment sent flying from 430 metres across the lake. It was thought to be travelling at 140km/h

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There is zero evidence pyrotechnics cut steel columns.

And how is” How about posting some evidence of a steel framed high rise suffering a universal footprint collapse due to fire prior to 9/11. Good luck. “ actual evidence of detonations with the force it cut steel columns. It’s not, it’s not even logical.

edit on 20-3-2019 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

How about posting some evidence of a steel framed high rise suffering a universal footprint collapse due to fire prior to 9/11.

How about you giving examples of a building with a similar design that suffered similar damage and DIDN'T collapse? Then you might have a point

Good luck

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

i.pinimg.com...
I trust you are familiar with the term 'slag'? Notice the angular cut column, as well as RESCUE personnel. You're not one of those is going to try to claim they were cutting those columns during the initial rescue operations are you?

You went with a picture with no date? Prove what date the picture was taken. I thought you wouldn’t result in blatant falsehoods. You really need to read through these threads, and not let the truth movement lie to you.

www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-wtc-9-11-angle-cut-column-not-thermite-cut-later.t9469/

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The clincher is that the column was still there earlier that day, with no cut. On October 29th.

The column you refer to was cut Oct 29th. If you really need to read through the 9/11 threads. It took two weeks to dig out the column.

So, you used two falsehoods to make your point. But the towers did not fall at the rate of free fall with the core columns falling at 40 percent free fall. The column you referred to is prove to have been cut during cleanup, and the picture was not taken during the “initial rescue operations”.

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

How about posting some evidence of a steel framed high rise suffering a universal footprint collapse due to fire prior to 9/11.

How about you giving examples of a building with a similar design that suffered similar damage and DIDN'T collapse? Then you might have a point

Good luck

Good point.

3 buildings did this in the same place on the same day... September 11th 2001.

Now find an example where this has happened before or after that date.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: twitchy

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: twitchy

And there is video evidence of the twin tower columns buckling. Post a video of the columns being cut during collapse?

How about posting some evidence of a steel framed high rise suffering a universal footprint collapse due to fire prior to 9/11.

How about you giving examples of a building with a similar design that suffered similar damage and DIDN'T collapse? Then you might have a point

Good luck

Good point.

3 buildings did this in the same place on the same day... September 11th 2001.

Now find an example where this has happened before or after that date.

Exactly. Truthers claim that the unique events of that day mean that something sinister must have been involved without realising that the scenario on that day was unique.

Zero joined up thinking

a reply to: mrthumpy

It was unique....... it was miraculous.

Here is a vid about all the miracles that happened that day:

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: mrthumpy

It was unique....... it was miraculous.

Here is a vid about all the miracles that happened that day:

What’s the odd’s of winning the lottery? Yet people win.

So you have no actual proof CD, so you are forced to resort to innuendo. The collapse of all three buildings are on video. Why is the video not evidence of CD?

So never before means impossible.

Other than your false innuendo of CD at the WTC, name another building where the structure was secretly rig for CD with no traps to catch shrapnel, that was a top down CD, where the collapse initiation was lacking a detonation with the force to cut steel columns, and there was no demolitions shrapnel recovered from the street / injured people / human remains?

a reply to: neutronflux

What is CD?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: neutronflux

What is CD?

You tell me. What are you implying brought down the WTC?

a reply to: neutronflux

What does CD mean - is it short for something?