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This is why your lefties seem unhinged

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posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: whargoul

so the guys who work at Border patrol serve no real purpose and should go to McDonalds and flip burgers?




posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: network dude


how is a wall going to stop planes, ships and drones from bringing in drugs? lol

lol stopping drugs from coming in, it's funny.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: whargoul

Yes, it is totally racist to want border security. According to you guys, its racist to do or think just about anything these days.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: whargoul

Awsome post dude!



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: bluesjr

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude


considering most come in on visas and overstay their welcome - how will a wall stop that?




It will allow resources currently used to stop hundreds of thousands from physically crossing illegally each year to be used to go after those who overstay.

That plus the $135 billion saved each year caring for those illegal immigrants should be ample funding to deal with this problem you've highlighted.


A 30 - 50ft wall is a massive deterrent for those seeking to illegally break into the country. The economic and practical benefits of the wall are obvious; and the notion that a wall won't work, which is always an argument made by those who have never broken into a country, is ridiculous on its face.

But there is also an abstract, but moral and philosophical benefit to a nation asserting its sovereignty with border infrastructure. For one, it will help ensure the country's rule of law and maintain the notion of citizenship, which are crucial to a country's future.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: network dude

I just searched on the "Google " and duck, and I couldn't find dems supporting explicitly "open borders " or any bills indicating the want for open borders.


It seems like "the dems want open borders " naratives are peddled by the "right".

Which senator/ governor is for illegal immigration or open borders?


So why do so many Democrat run cities claim to be "sanctuary cities" which is explicitly encouraging and validating illegal immigration?

You progressives rarely just come out and say what you actually mean. We have to analyze your actions to get to the true heart of the matter. You won't explicitly state you don't want open borders, but you will do all kinds things to essentially encourage it.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude


how is a wall going to stop planes, ships and drones from bringing in drugs? lol

lol stopping drugs from coming in, it's funny.


Its not. You are not going to completely 100% ever wipe drugs out. That is silly to even consider. It will make it much more difficult to just strap a bundle of 30 kilos onto the back of a immigrant and force them to cross. Just because it wont completely wipe the problem out doesnt mean its not worth it to put a big hole in the operation.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude


how is a wall going to stop planes, ships and drones from bringing in drugs? lol

lol stopping drugs from coming in, it's funny.


I know you want desperately to be relevant, but ignoring facts just makes you look lazy. It won't stop everyone who wants to do bad things, but it should slow things down considerably. Or is ignoring all of it the right way to go in your eyes?

I'd ask if you lock your door at home, but you probably wouldn't understand the relevance.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I can’t speak for everyone, but a lot of us want immigrants to have a quicker, cheaper, easier way to be here legally. We want the hard working guys, not the bad guys.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: whargoul

Defending illegal immigration and pooh-poohing a country that wants to stem illegal immigration is a form of anti-immigrant sentiment. People work for and wait their whole lives to become legal citizens, and any pro-illegal euphemism and excuse-making only serves to delegitimize their efforts.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude


how is a wall going to stop planes, ships and drones from bringing in drugs? lol

lol stopping drugs from coming in, it's funny.


Strapping 50 pounds on the back of an illegal then times that by 1000 of them is how you do it to get at least XX percentage in for profit. These days, flying a loaded plane will most likely get you no where fast, and you lose the plane. Drones is small amounts so do you use 5000 drones or 1000 illegals. BTW if the drones follow some lost com logic to a GPS point how many of those suckers would get there before the feds figured it out...lol


edit on 2-1-2019 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: whargoul

Defending illegal immigration and pooh-poohing a country that wants to stem illegal immigration is a form of anti-immigrant sentiment. People work for and wait their whole lives to become legal citizens, and any pro-illegal euphemism and excuse-making only serves to delegitimize their efforts.


Well said!!



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: whargoul

Defending illegal immigration and pooh-poohing a country that wants to stem illegal immigration is a form of anti-immigrant sentiment. People work for and wait their whole lives to become legal citizens, and any pro-illegal euphemism and excuse-making only serves to delegitimize their efforts.


As per your avatar... the thing that shall not be named... We call it human trafficking, as in slave labor, sex trafficking, drug trafficking so on and so on...these things the left do not want to talk about.

We really need to stop using the term "immigration" and call all this by its real name of "human trafficking".



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: dug88

If they can’t get here in the first place, these companies wouldn’t be able to hire them, no?



Yeah in an ideal world that'd be nice. Too bad that hasn't been working has it? Oh yeah how are you going to stop people from sneaking into a country with two gigantic coast lines? Both of which are shared by the country from which you are trying to keep people from coming from.

There's endless ways to enter America apart from the southern border.

You can line the southern border with turrets and land mines but as long as there's incentive for illegal immigrants to enter and stay in America they'll find a way.

I mean people manage to cross the Korean demilitarized zone for # sake. That's like 4km of death with heavily armed fortifications on both sides.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: dug88

If they can’t get here in the first place, these companies wouldn’t be able to hire them, no?



Yeah in an ideal world that'd be nice. Too bad that hasn't been working has it? Oh yeah how are you going to stop people from sneaking into a country with two gigantic coast lines? Both of which are shared by the country from which you are trying to keep people from coming from.

There's endless ways to enter America apart from the southern border.

You can line the southern border with turrets and land mines but as long as there's incentive for illegal immigrants to enter and stay in America they'll find a way.

I mean people manage to cross the Korean demilitarized zone for # sake. That's like 4km of death with heavily armed fortifications on both sides.


Thats why we need a big, glorious wall!



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: whargoul

Defending illegal immigration and pooh-poohing a country that wants to stem illegal immigration is a form of anti-immigrant sentiment. People work for and wait their whole lives to become legal citizens, and any pro-illegal euphemism and excuse-making only serves to delegitimize their efforts.


As per your avatar... the thing that shall not be named... We call it human trafficking, as in slave labor, sex trafficking, drug trafficking so on and so on...these things the left do not want to talk about.

We really need to stop using the term "immigration" and call all this by its real name of "human trafficking".



Yes, an argument can be made that anyone who doesn't advocate for legal immigration over illegal immigration is anti-immigrant on the grounds that they hinder the efforts of real immigrants, those who go through the entire immigration process, in favor of those who break the law and avoid it entirely.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated

I can’t speak for everyone, but a lot of us want immigrants to have a quicker, cheaper, easier way to be here legally. We want the hard working guys, not the bad guys.


Immigration is also a worldly event, not just countries connected to us by a land bridge. If we want different cultures to enrich America I think we have fulfilled the south of the border culture...lol

I have a sister in-law that has been waiting over 15 years now to do it legally, already approved, so the whole illegal thing is kind of a sore point with me.
edit on 2-1-2019 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated

I can’t speak for everyone, but a lot of us want immigrants to have a quicker, cheaper, easier way to be here legally. We want the hard working guys, not the bad guys.


Exactly. If we cleaned up the system to make it so those who offer a benefit to our nation can come, it might just .....benefit the nation. I don't think anyone can argue that the system isn't flawed as it stands now.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: network dude


you thinking locking your doors is going to stop someone from getting in if they really want to? really?



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: network dude




I know you want desperately to be relevant


That's quite the Freudian Slip of a projection there.



but ignoring facts just makes you look lazy. It won't stop everyone who wants to do bad things, but it should slow things down considerably. Or is ignoring all of it the right way to go in your eyes?


It's a good thing you're not the one pushing rightwing gubment approved talking points like a spindoc on fire. Rrrriiigghhhtt?








 
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