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Where do right wingers stand on property rights?

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posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha


People's property lines don't end at the border. A lot of Texas ranchers, for example, have lands that straddle the border significantly on both sides of the border.

Yes, all property ends at a border... even a state border. Land was originally granted by the respective states, so it is not possible for land in one state to be granted by another. Now, the same person can own land in two different states, but they still have a property line that ends at the state border.

The same holds true for property in the US and Mexico. A person can certainly own land in both, but the property lines do not cross the border. In the case of Mexican land ownership, it is actually unconstitutional in Mexico for any non-Mexican citizen to own land within 100 km of the border or 50 km from the coast, so the people you speak of are by definition Mexican, not American.

TheRedneck




posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn


I have to wonder what it is you two are trying to accomplish here.

No, you know exactly what they're trying to accomplish here. They're taking a principle that is an absolute necessity in its original intent, which has also been abused by both parties (including their own) on occasion, and trying to create some kind of half-assed contradiction based wholly on their intentional misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the whole thing.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: chiefsmom
Just for myself, If I lived on land that illegal immigrants were coming onto all the time, I'd have to say, come build it.
But then I would want a wall/fence anywhere I lived, if I had to worry about people coming on my land all the time, without permission.

Isn't that called trespassing?


Most of the people in question have zero problems with illegal aliens coming through their property.



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:21 PM
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Owners of property, armed forces, retirees and their spouses that are all verifiable citizens should be the only eligible voters for every and any election, state, local and federal.
edit on 1-1-2019 by tkwasny because: addition



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: soundguy

You are, as usual, reading thing that aren't there.

The property owner should be paid fair market value, that implies, whether you agree or not, the ability to say no, as well.

But you go right ahead and read what ever you like into it.



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:35 PM
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Moral of the story

The greater good only mattera if it fits my partisan narrative



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
Moral of the story

The greater good only mattera if it fits my partisan narrative


Yes, that is why so many of you want socialism.



posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

who is you? who wants socialism? sorry your partisanship has your judgement clouded



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 12:56 AM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical


Most of the people in question have zero problems with illegal aliens coming through their property.

Care to prove that statement? I don't know of anyone who "has zero problem with anyone coming across their property." Especially along the border... the few people I know of who own property there typically are having to deal with theft and cattle rustling, as well as physical attacks if they try to protect their property.

TheRedneck



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: soundguy

Generally, I'm against "eminent domain," especially when the compensation provided for said property is usually insufficient.

That said, property along the national boarder is in a class of its own. As far as securing the border, which affects the whole of the nation, I would assume that there are special considerations mentioned and agreed upon when someone buys property bordering an international boundary.

It's just like when I bought my house--I understood that there is a certain distance from the road that I'm an charge with caring for and is on the lot that I purchased, but that the government entities can use for any utility purpose that they may need.

Now, I'm not a right-winger, but fall enough more on the right than left to feel that my answer may matter. Of course, outside of this special instance of an international boundary, I hold a pretty hardcore stance that your property is your property, and the government shouldn't be able to do whatever it wants on your property.

But that's the cost of living in a social setting where you rely on government utilities, I supposed. There is a real-world give-and-take, even if my philosophy on it differs.



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 01:33 PM
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Thanks for your thoughtful response. a reply to: SlapMonkey



posted on Jan, 2 2019 @ 01:49 PM
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I think it's total BS on the land owners on the border. They want more then the market value for their land so they are coming the victim status "oh, feel sorry for me as this land has been in my family for x amount of years".
Well according to the video I saw of said land owners their ranches, farms whatever you want to call them was a vast stretch of the imagination. They quite obviously did NOT work their land. To call it scrub land or desert would be generous, so to lose any of it would not impact them whatsoever.



posted on Jan, 24 2019 @ 05:41 PM
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I keep hearing this but does anyone actually know how many cases are we talking about where eminent domain would be used? I know people that have actually made out quite well in selling small strips of land like this. Also, in the area of 700 miles wouldn't there already be a small fence road etc that border patrol could use? So what exactly are we talking about when a already existing fence would be converted into a 30 foot fence...

In areas that are not completely devoid of human life I see this as a consistent pattern...not much on the US side and small farming plots on the Mexico side. I can't find anything that looks like a farm that crosses on both sides.


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posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 04:07 AM
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