New Democrat Majority U.S. House Will Vote To Re-Open Government on January 3rd 2019.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Phage

Most importantly, the Wall will reduce the number of American Citizen deaths, injuries and sicknesses.

No it won't.

Common sense says the wall will reduce threats to American citizens. Are you removing common-sense from your assessment?

Common sense says the wall will be in litigation and only be built on flat BlM land.

Eminent domain litigation takes years and trump will be gone. Plus the money will be sucked off by bureaucrats and contractors and lawyers.

The wall is just the symbol trump uses to keep his base riled up. It works

So you arel all for citizens being killed, drugs pouring over the border, sex and human trafficking, illegal guns coming north... because this time Trump wanted it fixed instead of when the Democrats did.

I mean... screw us as long as you can back up your ideology, right?

The next kid that gets force-marched through 600 miles of desert and dies on our border?

That's people like you that are supporting that.

So own it.

a reply to: BlueJacket

if I take care of my household responsibly, and I invite as many others as can be justified to be grown into contributing members for the over all good of the community...

And none of those people will ever do harm to anyone in your household. You know from whence the majority of child sexual abuse cases arise, don't you?

I used to think you were intelligent.

Yeah, Well. That's your problem. Don't really care.


A wall will not reduce murder, rape, or drug use in this country.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Phage

Most importantly, the Wall will reduce the number of American Citizen deaths, injuries and sicknesses.

No it won't.

Common sense says the wall will reduce threats to American citizens. Are you removing common-sense from your assessment?

Common sense says the wall will be in litigation and only be built on flat BlM land.

Eminent domain litigation takes years and trump will be gone. Plus the money will be sucked off by bureaucrats and contractors and lawyers.

The wall is just the symbol trump uses to keep his base riled up. It works

So you arel all for citizens being killed, drugs pouring over the border, sex and human trafficking, illegal guns coming north... because this time Trump wanted it fixed instead of when the Democrats did.

I mean... screw us as long as you can back up your ideology, right?

The next kid that gets force-marched through 600 miles of desert and dies on our border?

That's people like you that are supporting that.

So own it.

My Ideology?

I'm a realist, I know how government contracts work. It's a slow process and administrations change, and the money gets spent for other things, like wars.

a reply to: Lumenari

If we got rid of those it would save approximately 4,300 deaths a year.

Just think, if guns were banned how many lives it would save!

I seem to remember someone saying once that if it effects others, then it effects you...

Affects. Yes, yes it does. Often so.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: shooterbrody

Has the house put forth a bill?

Yes.
Not much on current events, are you?

Did it make it through the senate?

a reply to: shooterbrody

That wasn't your question.

a reply to: carewemust

The wall has only been promised since the days of Reagan. That was how they got amnesty way back then -- it was the promise that was made. A wall for the amnesty. The wall was promised in the future ... well, the future is here.

a reply to: ketsuko

Is amnesty here? Is it on the table?
A path to citizenship for those who are here? Is that here?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

No it doesn’t mean that all immigration should be ceased

It means that all ILLEGAL immigration should be ceased

How can anyone be against that?

Every single country on Earth is against it. Why should the United States not be against ILLEGAL immigration also?

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a reply to: Breakthestreak

It means that all ILLEGAL immigration should be ceased

But that's not what was said.

Why should the United States not be against ILLEGAL immigration also?

I'm against it. There are laws against it. That's why it's called illegal. Isn't it?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko

Is amnesty here? Is it on the table?
A path to citizenship for those who are here? Is that here?

You already got it ... back in the '80s with Reagan. Half that trade remains unrealized -- the wall portion. Time to pay up.

a reply to: Phage

Good to hear

A wall would definitely help to combat ILLEGAL immigration

That cannot be denied

a reply to: ketsuko

You already got it

I didn't, nor do I need it.

the wall portion.

I can't find that wall in the law of which you speak. Can you help me with that? It seems like it should be in part B, but I can't find it.
www.congress.gov...

a reply to: Breakthestreak

That cannot be denied

Its cost effectiveness certainly can be questioned.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: shooterbrody

That wasn't your question.

Oh I am sorry has the process changed?
Did a bill appear for potus to sign?

I know civics is hard.

a reply to: Phage

The borders were supposed to have been secured through a variety of measures including vigorous employment enforcement that never happened.

Now, we do it this way.

If they don't like the wall, they should have done it through other means when they had the chance. This is where we are now. Border security as promised and today it looks like a wall since it has been proven amply over the years that none of the other measures will be used.

a reply to: ketsuko

So, you made this up?

The wall has only been promised since the days of Reagan. That was how they got amnesty way back then -- it was the promise that was made. A wall for the amnesty.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Did a bill appear for potus to sign?

That wasn't your question either.

a reply to: Phage

So the new Congress submitted a bill?
Interesting.
I missed that.
Think potus will sign it?

a reply to: shooterbrody

So the new Congress submitted a bill?

Once again, not the question I replied to.