6th Generation Fighter Meta Thread

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a reply to: thebozeian

The Brits asked the Japanese to join Tempest. Japan said no. The Brits then asked to do extensive collaboration on the airframe, etc. Japan said no.

That was information we had until the latest came out.

The Japanese did just say that the Brits would collaborate on the engines. I'd bet rolls royce since they did get early work on the advanced engines by the USAF and DARPA, but not to the end like P&W and GE.

There has been talk of potentially using Reaction Engines for the Tempest project. That could, in turn, spill over to the UK's efforts with the Japanese. However, until I see hardware being flight tested, I'm going to be wildly skeptical. I've been watching RE since the 80s and...while they have finally gotten to the point where they do a bench test with the precooler, there's a long distance and a lot of money between a bench test and flight hardware.

Why the Navy NGAD program is totaly classified et USAF not ?

a reply to: anzha

That would be amazing if they do it, but I do wonder about the question that my car modder friend always sued to ask me...

"Do you want it mild or wild?"

We all want reaction engines, directed energy weapons, incredible agility, multi-spectral stealth, long range, near magic radar and EW suites...but you have to wonder how much money there is going to be available to develop this, given that the world is going to be a lot poorer for years to come.

There has to be more global cooperation on this, otherwise there will be a larger number of 6th generation fighter concepts that are less than they could have been and cost far more than they should...

BAe will (supposedly) 3d print 30% of the Tempest Fighter.

3dprint.com...

China's next gen fighter follow-on to the J-20 is apparently aimed for 2035:

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originally posted by: darksidius
Why the Navy NGAD program is totaly classified et USAF not ?

a reply to: glib2
I await your thinking

a reply to: anzha

Guess they're not expecting to fight low with that design...

a reply to: anzha

Can anyone tell where the intakes are? Top or bottom?

Id say on top near the rear of the canopy line..

According to the sino internet, they are on the bottom. Something like the YF-23. I haven't anything that makes me think that, but that's the consensus there.

a reply to: anzha

That was my thought as well. Bottom on either side, next to the wing root.

originally posted by: Blackfinger
Id say on top near the rear of the canopy line..

I’m happy I asked. The top and bottom show different purposes. The bulges on top and the flatter bottom it was difficult to tell.

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Navy either was dragging its feet or tried something that didn't work out.

6th gen manned carrier bird is on the menu.

originally posted by: anzha
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Navy either was dragging its feet or tried something that didn't work out.

6th gen manned carrier bird is on the menu.

What if the prototype did well and moving on to the next step? Could that be an option?

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What if the prototype did well and moving on to the next step? Could that be an option?

Doubtful. The navy hasn't been spending much on their aircraft project until very recently. It looks like the Navy is going for a competition which strongly implies there's no set winner.

IMO, I bet they realized the Rhino is going to burn out sooner than they thought and that's the reason they're going forward now.

originally posted by: anzha
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Navy either was dragging its feet or tried something that didn't work out.

6th gen manned carrier bird is on the menu.

They probably build prototypes, but can't figure out how to get the funding to build operational aircraft.
If they push the issue know, they know they'll end up with an F-35D.

originally posted by: anzha
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The navy hasn't been spending much on their aircraft project until very recently.

I disagree. Even though spending is a loose term. It’s a natural process to start up things like this (i imagine) if something has been tested and is moving forward (I imagine) since the prototypes’ testing is complete as concepts (I imagine :roll

. No?