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Another Transgender Truth-Teller Cowed To Apologize

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posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: Rewey

Mercilessly harassed?? Lol




posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I defend people like this:













None of whom have viciously physically attacked anyone, but are at much more risk of being viciously physically attacked themselves.

edit on 30-12-2018 by kaylaluv because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Ever wonder what these people would look like without medically unnecessary modern procedures, medicine and treatments including hormones?

If they were as nature alone intended them to be??



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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Males who compete as females is where I draw the f'ing line, other than that feel free to live as you like.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Boadicea

I defend people like this:






No you don't.

You virtue signal near meaningless issues.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Why not just play in mixed leagues? Why insist on the "social diploma" in the form of a team jersey or an outright trophy from a specifically gendered team? Is one from a mixed league any less valid?

You like a sport and want to play? Ok. Why be on a woman's team as a biological male? You are not a standard female by any measure.

There are simple boys and girls teams. That's all. Go onto a mixed team or just deal we an imperfect world. Nothing can actually be done about how people feel by others. It's a personal choice. Some jive, some dig. You just chill man.

I'm busy with my choices like everyone else is busy with theirs. Be a man or a woman with non-standard issues on a non-specific, non-standard team.

We wouldn't allow special Olympians to compete with other athletes, would we? What would be the point?

What if you feel you are special? I honest to God thought I was at one point in my life.

What then? You get to slam on and run circles around handicapped people with biological handicaps they REALLY have no power over just because you "feel" like something?

No. Ok. No. Never. You could even have a sound argument. Most of the time most people won't identify with your specific story.

That's not wrong. It just is.

edit on 12 30 2018 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Rewey

It is untrue that she was able to compete against other women by just “proclaiming she was a woman” - she had to undergo the standard testing procedures. I believe her testosterone levels were well below the threshold, which means she has less testosterone than most of the other women players.

She’s tall, I’ll grant you that.


Not sure about the testosterone levels for the handball thing, but I believe that was they main element for the AFL ruling. From my (admittedly limited) understanding, that seems to be the most common means of addressing the hormonal imbalance and 'unfairness'.

But there are so many other elements which have been discussed before, aside from just 'her' height advantage, such as a lifetime of stronger muscle and bone density, anaerobic capacity, hormonal balance, etc. Safety of other players was also a concern for the AFL given that it's such a physical sport with no protective equipment worn.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Rewey

Mercilessly harassed?? Lol


"That’s my opinion, and you shouldn’t jump on me and disagree with me, like they did to Martina. Right?"



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:28 PM
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Why hello there slippery slope!



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

WOW... She is acting like she just discovered that "men and women are different..." It took her a long time to come to terms with this, and she finally agreed with him but then started crying?



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

You are already in a protected class just be being human.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Boadicea

I defend people like this:













None of whom have viciously physically attacked anyone, but are at much more risk of being viciously physically attacked themselves.


Is it the norm already for people to have near perfect surgeries?

And I though you were against children being changed at a young age. Guess you changed your mind?

None of these people you pictured are going to get attacked because they look damn near perfectly transitioned. I suppose they may run the risk if they absolutely have to tell everyone that they transitioned. Not sure why they would need to, seems to be in the realm of privacy at that point.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Fall in line and apologize for wrong think or else be shamed

Progressives 2018 and 2019



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: infolurker

The pursuit of happiness is in my opinion, one of the most important ideas from our constitution.

What transgendered people are doing is just that. Pursuing their happiness.

What they are doing does not stop me from pursuing mine.

If your a patriot and you love the document this country was founded on then let them pursue their happiness and you pursue yours.


I am sorry but that's wrong. The transgendered community should be able to live without fear, and be allowed to live their lives how they want.

However, what is happening is that the "belief of the left, including about the LGBT community" is being forced upon people.

How would you feel if the government was forcing on you to become a Catholic, and follow the morals and ideas of Catholicism?...

How would you feel if you were FORCED to accept, and to live by the racist ideas of real nazis?...

I am not saying these ways of life are the same. What I am saying is that just because it is the "belief" of a group of people, it shouldn't be forced on the rest of the population.

People shouldn't be "forced" to call as a woman someone they see as a man.

People shouldn't be "sued" for their belief, and for not agreeing with the lifestyle of the LGBT community.

How would you feel if by not accepting or agreeing with the racist ideas and beliefs of real nazis you could be sued, put in jail and have to pay a fine for not kowtowing to such racist lifestyle?




edit on 30-12-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Rewey

It is untrue that she was able to compete against other women by just “proclaiming she was a woman” - she had to undergo the standard testing procedures. I believe her testosterone levels were well below the threshold, which means she has less testosterone than most of the other women players.

She’s tall, I’ll grant you that.


Taking hormones for a very small part of your life especially after puberty is an advantage. Bigger bones muscle mass etc

Before claiming a new gender they've had testosterone pumper through their body for at least 18 years giving them a.l physical advantage.

Just a simple fact men and women are different and you can't change it. The basic denial of science is frustrating no one's trying to make people feel bad.

Well some maybe...



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: infolurker

The pursuit of happiness is in my opinion, one of the most important ideas from our constitution.

What transgendered people are doing is just that. Pursuing their happiness.

What they are doing does not stop me from pursuing mine.

If your a patriot and you love the document this country was founded on then let them pursue their happiness and you pursue yours.


I am sorry but that's wrong. The transgendered community should be able to live without fear, and be allowed to live their lives how they want.

However, what is happening is that the "belief of the left, including about the LGBT community" is being forced upon people.

How would you feel if the government was forcing on you to become a Catholic, and follow the morals and ideas of Catholicism?...

How would you feel if you were FORCED to accept, and to live by the racist ideas of real nazis?...

I am not saying these ways of life are the same. What I am saying is that just because it is the "belief" of a group of people, it shouldn't be forced on the rest of the population.

People shouldn't be "forced" to call as a woman someone they see as a man.

People shouldn't be "sued" for their belief, and for not agreeing with the lifestyle of the LGBT community.

How would you feel if by not accepting or agreeing with the racist ideas and beliefs of real nazis you could be sued, put in jail and have to pay a fine for not kowtowing to such racist lifestyle?





If there was ever a case of slippery slope, this will be it.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Rewey

It is untrue that she was able to compete against other women by just “proclaiming she was a woman” - she had to undergo the standard testing procedures. I believe her testosterone levels were well below the threshold, which means she has less testosterone than most of the other women players.

She’s tall, I’ll grant you that.


What you're talking about would necessarily have to happen pre-puberty. Where it can harm the development of children, as you've stated yourself. Which is something I thought you were against.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:49 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

If there was ever a case of slippery slope, this will be it.


Here is the thing. People like me were born into, and were forced to believe in socialism and communism. People like me saw, and experienced oppression for going to church, which we had to do in hiding. Such is the type of oppression the left is using these days.

If I ever was sued for my beliefs, I will sue back for trying to force upon me once again the ideas and lifestyle that the "left" want me to kowtow to. I already experienced the oppression of the left.


edit on 30-12-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv


It's still wrong. All these transgender people are wrong. The only reason why standards and procedures exists is because these crazy people complained and whined until they got what they wanted and they will still whine and complain about it.

Yes, I said it. Transgender people are CRAZY.

Sorry but science has already proven that Men are just biologically stronger than women so if a Man who claims to now be a woman and wants to compete in a womens league, then they have an unfair advantage and who suffers? Biologically born females suffer.

You say she's tall? That's it? Look at his muscle and bone density, look at his size compared to them. Yes I'm calling him a HIM because that's what he is. Nothing you say can justify how this person can be allowed to compete when HE clearly has a physical advantage over all of them and guess what? Testosterone is a HORMONE along with ESTROGEN and just because someones testosterone levels are low does not automatically make them biologically equal to a female. For gods sake his arms is as big as his teammates legs!


BTW I identify as an 80 yr old because deep down inside I feel old. Can I now file for retirement because I "feel old"? These people "feel" like they are the opposite sex and they can somehow just claim that? Are you going to accept the fact that I want to be 80? Or are you going to agree that age cannot be changed just like women cannot gain functioning testicles and men cannot gain functioning ovaries? Therefore men cannot be women and women cannot be men. Prove to me otherwise.
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posted on Dec, 30 2018 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

If there was ever a case of slippery slope, this will be it.


Here is the thing. People like me were born into, and were forced to believe in socialism and communism. People like me saw, and experienced oppression for going to church, which we had to do in hiding. Such is the type of oppression the left is using these days.

If I ever was sued for my beliefs, I will sue back for trying to force upon me once again the ideas and lifestyle that the "left" want me to kowtow to. I already experienced the oppression of the left.



The problem nowadays is that many believe it can't happen again because we've "progressed" and its *insert current year*.




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