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UFO MIB / US Gov Thread.

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posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 01:01 PM
a reply to: CynConcepts

Thanks for the reply mate and good luck with that digging (keep us posted) -certainly a very interesting legend.

When it comes to UFO MIB shenanigans, this gentleman also tells a strange tale about a UFO photograph being requested for analysis and, upon delivering it to a specific address, goes back only to find all the furniture gone and no one there.

See 1:40

This tobacco farm UFO/MIB case is also a bit of a freaky one.

posted on Jan, 10 2019 @ 01:36 PM
Turns out UFO researcher Stan Gordon also had a bit of a shock when he enquired whether a certain UFO witness would be willing to undergo hypnosis and he replied 'You already did the hypnosis'.

Apparently 'an army guy and a guy in a suit' had already conducted it whilst posing as two of Gordon's UFO research team:

This 1971 East Midlands case involving Jim Wilson and investigated by Jenny Randles is also rather odd.

posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 08:33 AM
a reply to: karl 12

This tobacco farm UFO/MIB case is also a bit of a freaky one.

Love your thread, mate, and I just had to comment that Beyond Creepy is my favourite YouTube channel!

Good job!


posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 09:50 AM
a reply to: karl 12

Don’t know how I missed this; marking for later.

posted on Jan, 12 2019 @ 08:35 AM

originally posted by: beetee

Love your thread, mate, and I just had to comment that Beyond Creepy is my favourite YouTube channel

Good to see you mate and yes BC certainly has a talent for discovering and presenting some of the lesser known (and utterly bizarre) UFO cases - found this incident involving Sharon Stull to be completely bonkers - talk about physiological effects!

Keeping with the MIB topic Nick Redfern goes into a bit more detail about his research below, there's also a good PDF file courtesy of Isaac containing a UFOM article from Easley and Hilberg.

PDF File: MIB: A Report On The Mystery Men In Black Who Have Terrorised UFO Witnesses And Investigators In All Parts Of The Nation

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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 04:05 AM
Full account of Shirley Greenfield's experience with MIB after witnessing a UFO in Bolton, January 23rd, 1976:

On the evening of Monday January 23, 1976 17-year-old Shirley Greenfield (a pseudonym) was on the bus returning from the office she worked at in Bolton to her new home on the West Pennine Moors, a part of the range of hills known as the Pennines, just outside the town. This is a part of Britain that has been fraught with UFO activity for many years.

Shirley got off the bus at 5.20pm. It was almost dark and the streets were quiet. Her walk from the bus stop to her home took less than ten minutes and she was nearly home when she noticed two lights cavorting over a reservoir. In seconds, the lights swooped down on her to become a metallic disc directly overhead, possibly thirty feet across and spinning like a top. It was as if they had picked her out amongst the gloom of the streets. An invisible force pressed her hard to the ground. Metal fillings in her teeth "vibrated" and a tangy taste filled her mouth. Shirley feared that this unseen "force" would crush her. One half hour of "missing time" was noted when she arrived home, terror-stricken and unable to speak from the shock of the experience.

The event was reported to the police, who refused to investigate and turned the story over to the media. Not seeking publicity, Shirley refused to cooperate with the local press and turned down a lucrative offer for a filmed television interview. Her health had deteriorated and she took to her bed for several days with muscle aches and nausea and vomiting. Her eyes hurt and watered and were quite red. She had unexplained burn marks on her arm and side, as well as a strange purple rash on her neck and shoulders. In her mouth, top dental fillings crumbled into powder and fell out, while some bottom fillings became embedded into the gums.

On Monday, February 2nd, Shirley’s mother intercepted a telephone call from a man who would only identify himself as "someone who investigates these things" that asked about her daughter's health and whether any marks had been left on the girl's body as a result of her ordeal. The mother put the caller off.

At 7:00 PM on the following evening, two men arrived at the Greenfield home and demanded "to interrogate" the girl. Both men appeared about 40 and wore crisp black suits and denied being either UFOlogists or journalists. The father initially refused to let them in. One man, tall and fair, almost blond, did all the talking and sternly responded with, "If you do not let us in now, we will come back later and make Shirley speak to us."

Neither man used names. Both had an air of authority and conducted themselves as if they had every right to do and say whatever they chose. The silent partner sat on a chair and held a square black box with no visible moving parts. It was said to be a high-tech recording device. Although this intense grilling session lasted three hours, at no time was any recording tape changed.

The tall one was rude to the point of aggression.

This visit ended with a threat to be silent.

"You must not talk about this matter. It is in your interests not to do so. Nobody will believe you, in any case. In particular, you must not talk to UFO investigators."

The pair left in a large black car.

Mr. Greenfield still wonders, "You know, I have never been able to understand why I did not throw them out. Why I let them hound Shirley for hour after hour. I would normally not tolerate something like this. Why did I let them do this thing?"

The mother was creeped out by the man who had not spoken all night. He continually stared intently at her daughter the entire evening.

These mystery men telephoned the very next day and again a week later. They were still concerned about whether or not the girl had any unusual marks on her body following her ordeal. Shirley finally admitted that, yes, there were marks, but they were gone now. This seemed to satisfy the visitors. They did not contact the family again.

Under the auspices of Dr. Albert Kellar in Manchester, Shirley was hypnotized and asked to relive both the UFO sighting and the visit by the two Men in Black. She reacted in absolute terror to the visit by the MIB and the doctor was forced to abandon the experiment because her vital signs rose to dangerous levels. Even so, Shirley offered a possible clue:

“I don’t understand... He’s talking to me twice.”

This MIB had supposedly interrogated her on two different levels. During the visit, messages had acted upon her subconscious mind in a form of subliminal communication. This advances notions of mental hypnotic suggestion and those Experiments in Distant Influence documented by Dr. Leonid L. Vasiliev


Does sound similar to this MUFON investigated Virginia case where MIBs were waiting in a diner for a UFO witness ' to discuss his sighting' - even though the man just decided to eat there 30 seconds earlier.

State Director for MUFON Susan Swiatek goes into more detail about the incident in the presentation below and (along with taped witness testimony) also lists parallels with the Bolton case as described above.

See 1:21:41

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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 09:49 AM

See 59:12

Robert Fleischer describes a close range pilot UFO encounter from Germany on August 13th, 1976 where a yellow, oval shaped object flew just off the left wing of a Piper Arrow aircraft.

Apparently the pilot's magnetic compass was spinning wildly and Hanover Airport also confirmed the UFO on radar - two F4 Phantom jets were sent up to investigate and the object departed at high speed (compass went back to normal).

Upon landing a military van (without licence plates) pulled up to the plane and five men with suits got out - they wouldn't identify who they worked for but detained and interrogated the pilot for over 3 hours in an underground room on airport property.

After the questioning they tried to make him sign a document stating that he would never disclose details of his UFO sighting to the public, the pilot refused and they then threatened to suspend his pilot's licence - subsequently parts of the lower aircraft had become permanently magnetised and had to be replaced.
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posted on Jan, 17 2019 @ 01:57 PM

originally posted by: beetee

and I just had to comment that Beyond Creepy is my favourite YouTube channel!

Unfortunately BC has just been demonetised by YouTube (link) - hope he can continue to put out more content.

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