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originally posted by: SlowNail
I always supposed ONI would be the top of that list.
FROM THE FOX-10 '10 files'...
: (on screen: stock "Phoenix Lights" footage, of lights suspended in sky)
: voiceover: Months after this (March 13) sighting there are many questions : regarding the strange lights over Phoenix. Is this a solid craft, or : merely lights in an empty sky? : What could be the conclusive evidence is now mysteriously missing. : Richard Curtis claims his home video is proof that this sighting was a : huge flying craft. And he claims his video shows a solid object in the sky : passing over his home.
: (on screen: cut to head shot of Curtis.)
: Curtis: I saw the bottom part (of the craft) as it went over Phoenix, : because the lights lit the bottom of it, and it partially blocked : out the clouds and the stars. : voiceover: Curtis called city councilwoman Frances Emma Barwood, wanting : to show her the footage. : (on screen: cut to head shot of Barwood)
: Barwood: He said he had it on two videotapes, and would I like them, so I : said, "Of course I would.", and could he give me copies of them. He said : he would. I told him how to get them to my office and to mark them : 'personal and confidential'. : (on screen: cheesy slo-mo video "re-enactment" of Men in Black walking : about)
: voiceover: But before Curtis could send copies to Barwood, he's paid a : visit by two mysterious men in black. : Curtisvoiced over MIB reenactments) They were dressed in black : suits, with black hats and sunglasses. They asked me if I had tapes for : coucilwoman Barwood, and I said "Yah, they're laying right here". They : said, "We've stopped by to pick them up." So I said, "Great!" and just : handed (the original tapes) to them.
: (on screen: cut to head shot of Barwood)
: Barwood: I didn't get them, and I have no idea who these two men were : since I have just females working in my office. Its absolutely puzzling to : me. : (on screen: cut to slo-mo MIB, one of them now holding videotapes...(!) )
: voiceover: Did the tapes ever exist, and if so were they proof of more : than "lights" in the sky? And who were these mysterious Men in Black who : allegedly took them?
: (as slo-mo MIB vid continues...)
: Curtis (voiced over): I think someone listened in on that phone call and : wanted those tapes.
: Barwood (voiced over): I can't explain it. Its just eerie. : Voiceover: The mystery continues. Jim Schnebelt, Fox-10 News. : _________ end story, cut to anchor _________ :
originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: SlowNail
why are you guys assuming they are flesh and blood humans?
keel debunked that theory years ago
originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko
Yup exactly. The MIBs are obviously not humans unless you people know of others that can make themselves and their vehicles dissappear into thin air like one of the stories mentioned.
Most witnesses say they don't look "human". Many/most don't have hair, eye lashes etc. Some talk with "robotic" voices. Make other personal items of the witnesses disappear and reappear days or weeks later.
A "typical" MIB encounter goes something like this: Soon (usually immediately) after witnessing some type of UFO phenomenon, the percipient is visited by one or more strange men. These men often flash badges, give names, and claim to be from one government agency or another. (Upon subsequent investigation, the names givien are invariably absent from the mentioned agency's records and often the agency itself is found not to exist.) The "agents" usually display not only an uncanny knowledge of exactly what the witness has seen, but intimate personal knowledge of the witness as well. They collect all physical evidence of the encounter that the witness may have, such as photographs or residue from a landing site. Even in instances where they do not threaten the witness outright not to speak of his or her experience, the MIB usually manage to make it clear that doing so would not be a good idea. Other times, however, the MIB claim to be insurance salesmen, portrait photographers, or something equally unconnected with the subject of UFOs and never mention the UFO event in question, yet somehow leave the impression that they are associated with it none the less.
MIB tend to run the gamut as far as physical appearance is concerned, however, some generalizations in this are can be made. While some MIB are decidedly more human-looking than others, they have been fairly consistently described as being olive-complected and having thin lips, high cheekbones, and slanted (sometimes glowing)eyes. Their height can range from very short to very tall. They often sport garish makeup and bad wigs in a failed attempt to look more "normal." It is usually difficult to estimate their age. Often they move in a "mechanical" fashion and their voice has a machine-like quality. They frequently appear to have respritory difficulties and seem to be drained of energy over short periods of time. They are usually dressed, of course, in black; most often in out of date suits that appear to be brand new and cut from some strange type of fabric.
“Unfortunately, we cannot dictate what evidence we must investigate,” said Randles. “These Men in Black are real, and the people who report them deserve our attention. We should strive to find out whether these threatening strangers are just a part of some secret department investigating UFOs or are visiting this world from somewhere beyond our ken.”
originally posted by: shawmanfromny
a reply to: humanoidlord
“Theories look great on paper until reality scribbles all over the page.”
― Richelle E. Goodrich
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Philip K Dick
In 1971, Arguello de la Mota and Antonio Arocha, both physicians, were in San Juan de los Morros, a small town not far from Caracas, Venezuela, when they were startled by the unexpected arrival of two characters dressed in black who drove into the dusty town in a sporty Mustang. Unaware that they were being watched, the MIB exchanged remarks and donned orange-colored belts. Suddenly, a brilliant object appeared in the sky, descending rapidly to the surface. The doctors swore that the object was a 60-foot-wide disk-shaped craft, which produced a parabolic ladder while hovering inches off the ground. The MIB entered the vehicle, which rose into the skies and vanished out of sight.
Most readers will be surprised to learn that Men in Black are not an exclusively Western phenomenon. In his book, China and the Extraterrestrials (Difel, 1985—translation available in French and in Portuguese), author Shi Bo relates an interview between newspaperman Wang Shili and a military chauffeur named Li Jingyang, who had a UFO experience in Shansi province in 1963, when he was only six years old.
While out with his friends, Li Jingyang noticed an awe-inspiring discoid object emerging from the clouds in an otherwise clear sky. The terrified boys observed the UFO closely, which remained static in the sky for some ten minutes.
The following day, while walking the streets alone, Li was surprised by a tall man “completely dressed in black” who stopped him in his tracks, barring his way and demanding to know what the boy had seen. “Since I didn’t understand him very well,” the hapless witness explained, “he repeated his question, and I replied yes. He pointed at the sky, where the luminous object had staged its appearance and asked me again: was it there? I told him yes. He advised me to never tell others what I’d seen. Only after I gave him my word of honor did he allow me to leave.”
Li Jingyang recalls the man as having dark skin, adding that many other people saw him and discussed the strange character, whose “gestures were incomprehensible.” The Man in Black walked in a mechanical manner and its mouth did not move whenever it spoke. It disappeared suddenly after turning around a street corner.
Scott Corrales - Inexplicata: The Journal of Hispanic Ufology.
FATE Magazine : August 2006
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
There could well be something more to this than government linked
What we have here is a case where almost all of the aspects of the UFO problem are involved.
This is a UFO observation report by a pilot.
This is a UFO close encounter.
This is a daylight UFO observation.
This is case were the reported UFOs are observed at close sight and are solid objet of obvious artificial construction.
This is a report of a near air collision between an aircraft and UFOs.
This is a report of UFO that have a behaviour which is suggesting intelligent control.
This is a case of physical effects on an aircraft.
This is a radar/visual case, where a visual sighting is confirmed by independant people detecting the presence of the objects on a detection device.
This is a case where the UFOs fly away in direction of Mount Popocatepetl, obviously a hotbed of UFO reports and allegedly some sort of hideout for extraterrestrial aircraft.
This is a case where a pilot reports his encounter publicly.
This is a case where the witness has been medically checked and interviewed. If Hynek could not speak to Los Santos Montiel, at least Jerome Clark and others could.
This is a case where the witness stood firm with his account over time.
This is a case where the witness reports that he has been repeatedly intimidated by unidentified people probably from a foreign country (UFO folklore call them "Men in Black").