Jon Jones is the 'GOAT' because he's a CHEATER

a reply to: TinySickTears

Right on. I’m sure they’ll all be compensated accordingly.

I’ll say this about your take on ‘none of us do’ w.r.t. the science and methodology of the testing: this is far from the first time Jones has pissed hot and I don’t need to have my nose rubbed in it to tell it’s sh$t. He’s sloppy and this whole things stinks. It’s sh$t critical-thinking, it’s sh$t patronizing, and it’s sh$t that the UFC won’t be renumerated by my marginal dollars with.

Maybe they ALL are on steroids. Maybe not. Jon Jones? Definitely, without a doubt, take-it-to-the-bank, is/was on steroids. At least 2 tests proven worth. Too bad the staff writer for BE, who bird-dogged this case, pleaded guilty to child porn earlier this summer, otherwise I’d link his twitter and articles/reports because he lays it out very nicely.

If we’re completely honest, Jones had no business juicing. None. It was self-destructive and I won’t be surprised when Jon does something self-destructive again. Dude has 2 NFL players as brothers. He, of all people, had no need for ‘the gear’. No known major injuries or surgeries. Been in ONE fight his entire career and never been concussed. What in god’s name did he need it for?

Dana and Co. have decided to sh$t where they eat and Nevada and Bennet won’t forget. Promise you that.

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
a reply to: TinySickTears

Right on. I’m sure they’ll all be compensated accordingly.

I’ll say this about your take on ‘none of us do’ w.r.t. the science and methodology of the testing: this is far from the first time Jones has pissed hot and I don’t need to have my nose rubbed in it to tell it’s sh$t. He’s sloppy and this whole things stinks. It’s sh$t critical-thinking, it’s sh$t patronizing, and it’s sh$t that the UFC won’t be renumerated by my marginal dollars with.

dude i 100% agree
jon jones is dirty
is/was juicing

does not change the fact that the pulsing results make sense.

i also said i know # about it so maybe it makes sense because i know # about it and thats what they are banking on.
a side note is the test is only down do the nanogram

they dont do us any favors by lying and muddying # up.



and logic and common sense leads me to agree with you
jon= dirty

a reply to: Athetos

He's OK in my book, but it isn't a Rogan thing in this case. I was talking about what Novitsky said rather than JR's take on it. On a broader note, it'd be foolish to write off guests like Krauss or whoever because of something Joe said once upon a time. Like him or not, he gets to have personal seminars with some of the world's brightest minds and that's why I like the shows.


a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Moving a long, Novitsky was probably idyllic and looking to shake things up at first, but he’s a complete UFC shill at this point, please don’t believe Novitsky’s tripe about the testing.

Give the show a listen. He could be shilling for UFC and he could be being accurate - both at the same time. I'll take it as accurate until I hear a more compelling argument or see evidence against it.

I'm not blind to the UFC's willingness to let money dictate decisions. It wouldn't be a surprise if they chose a guy who's sympathetic (bent) to their goals. I'm still bugged by the willingness to let Lesnar back in.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Yeah, dude. I knew you were picking what I was laying down...I write like I talk, so I just poured it on.

We got future engagements to worry about with T-Ferg, The Eagle and Max. Of course, if Conor wants another a$$-whooping, he’s something to talk about, too.

@Kandisky: I take your point, but it’s moot. Jon Jones has unequivocally failed, at least, 2 tests, and I’ve been keenly aware of Jeff Novitsky (notice the correct spelling) and his ambitions since jump street. A friendly piece of advice: research Cung Le, WADA-certified, etc. Guy is a UFC shill, and no matter his equivocations and his best I-am-breaking-down-the-science-for-the-lay tripe, I’ve got him pegged correctly.

Does it not, in any way, disrespect your critical-thinking skills knowing MacLaren was the arbiter?? Screw it, I did this with someone in an American football thread w.r.t. hypocrisy and belligerence from the head honchos running the orgs. If Novitsky was able to wordsmith you into belief during that interview, I’m sorry, you’re wrong.

Remember, just last month, Dana put Andy Foster on BLAST for sanctioning the Liddell-Ortiz fight, now they’re best friends. Put it together dude, you’re a mod on a conspiracy theory website.

did you see BJ vs Ryan Hall?


here it comes


















Hall hit him with the Iminari roll and landed in 50/50
heel hook

a reply to: TinySickTears

Nope. I told the old lady’ “please order your food, I’ll step out and save myself from watching BJ embarrass himself...”. Ugh, totally predictable. F$ck. Dude, BJ was a legit phenom and as nasty as It gets in his early-to-mid 20s. Bigly sad.

I’m really excited about the Mendes fight — sneaky good as the other guy is a live dog.

Happy new year, you BJJ snob

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Cyborg gonna run into a right hand she’s never felt before. Mark it.

Congrats to Nunes, TST called it.

I'm happy Nunes finished Cyborg that way, it was great! My wife who is a total non-UFC fan cheered and so did my mom!

As for Jones, never was a fan, never will be. Too much self righteous ego maniacal attitude coupled with Dunning-Kruger effect for my liking. The roids just add to my ongoing dislike of him. Pulsing could be true, I doubt it though I'm not an expert in this stuff.

Mendes v Volkanovski was great and Hall v Penn was great and quite a surprise! BJ needs to retire permanently please!

All other fights were enjoyed, the card was worth the price, still not happy all prelims are not on fight pass maybe that will change with ESPN in the picture for 2019+.

It looked like 'clean' Cyborg thought she was steroid Cyborg in the way she went out to quickly KO Nunes. Not enough respect? It was a great brawl and Nunes deserved it. She looked to have the advantage of quicker reactions which gave her better stand up and ultimately the edge in power.

Can't wait for the next Volkanovski fight. Great fight with Mendes and I'm looking at the top 5 to see who's next for him.

JJ's saying something about God making him the temple and blessing him as champion. He can do whatever he likes with God's blessing, right? Narcissism is a powerful quality for him. Fair enough he won, but who can say 'fair and square?' We'll never know how fair.

@ Beef - I don't know what more you want me to say. I'm against PEDs in sports, I've agreed UFC bends rules. I haven't said UFC is a clean outfit and I don't agree with all these cheats getting returns and/or instant title shots.

Well crap! lol

...and it's starting all over again. JJ's called out DC in the post-fights and DW's saying the fight (at LW) will happen. mmajunkie.com...

JJ says polygraph tests and God Himself have proven his innocence.

If he is back and he is clean and DC's willing to fight...it should be a good fight. Respect to DC if he refuses the challenge, but that ain't at all likely!

getting ready to watch now.

3/3 for ole TST

jones
nunes
hall

there it is

damn

Amanda put it on her

i called her winning the fight but not by KO in round 1

i thought she was going to work her and then get a stoppage in the 3rd


good for her

she deserves it

she is the female goat



and ryan hall submitting BJ for the first time ever

about to start round 2 of jones vs gus

roids. no roids.
jon fights smart


he also skirts the line of the rules and he #ing knows it

things happen accidentally. of course

an eye poke or a low knee happens.

it is suspect that with jon it happens in every damn fight you know.

overall i dont like jon as a person.

roid up. whatever

as a person he is just kind of #ty.

but the dude can fight.

he is efficient. he stays calm.

look what he did to gus this fight.


totally killed his range by staying outside.

hahahaahah

i mentioned jon and eye pokes and such cause he hit gus with the low knee in round one.

round 2 and gus pokes him in the eye


my point still stands

wow

jon is good man

gus did much better the first time around

jon just totally shut him down

lots of inside leg kids. a few oblique kicks to slow him down.
easy takedown round 3 and pound him out.


too bad his legacy as a fighter will always be tainted cause we dont know the extent of his cheating.

but he is damn good.
fights smart

it was not an Iminari Roll.

same basic goal but definitely different

a reply to: Lysergic

I really dislike Jon Jones but he would have won juiced or not. He just had a better game plan. But any other fighter wouldnt have even been able to fight even with he smallest trace of PEDs.

They made an exception to make the fight happen and I honestly lost respect for Dana and the UFC. Don't get me wrong Im happy I got to watch the fight but they for sure made and exception to their own rules because he's a star.

If I was DC I wouldn't give Jon Jones his super fight and just retire. His legacy is already tarnished and got caught juicing both times they fought .

DC did it clean and is in my humble opinion the GOAT and a great role model for the sport unlike Jones.

someone asked dana what would happen if jon fails his day of drug test and he said

"ill kill myself"

hahahahhaah

a reply to: TinySickTears

Geez that would be funny if he gets suspended again and the fight ruled a no contest.