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Another Crazy REEEE Incident by a Lefty: This Time in a Vape Store.

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posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 06:13 AM
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The United States is dead. Whatever the reason, flouridated water, radiation sickness, led in the environment, rational thought and critical analysis have disappeared.
On another point, would you really want to eat the cake you FORCED someone to make against their will? thanks




posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape


no one has coherently explained why the guy is videoing himeslf in a vape shop yet

Probably because it does not matter.

As I said, this is not just an automatic firing for me, but likely a police escort off the premises, banning from the premises, and blackballing. Why is irrelevant; there can be no excuse whatsoever for his actions. This simply does not happen if I am running the show. It's over the top and completely uncalled for. If the clerk cannot hold himself together when he is not being physically attacked, he does not need to be there... he will not be there... PERIOD.

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 06:54 AM
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Ladies and gentleman. This IS mental illness at work.

eta: I work in retail and deal with the public all day long. you are going to see things and hear things that you do not like nor agree with every day. if you can not hold it together and are so unstable that you ending up screaming into the clouds looking like a mental patient, perhaps dealing with the public isnt for you.
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posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth
That was cringe worthy.

Why dont these people understand they make the country and themselves look bad when they disrespect the president.

It's funny because everyone can go all out because trump is a white male.

Wait until a non white or female get in office. Liberals will be tongue tied.

Gas prices are 5 dollars a gallon. She cant say anything the president is half black...lol


The 21st Century is all 1984 now dontchaknow dontchaknow, partisans need their daily 2 Minutes of Hate (again and again each day).




posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: SprocketUK


no one has coherently explained why the guy is videoing himeslf in a vape shop yet



The simplest explanation is that he was repeatedly refused service so decided to film what he considered an unreasonable situation. Most people don't start filming until after something strange is happening.

Since the clerk didn't make any reference to unreasonable behavior, provocation, or trolling, other than just "being racist" it is hard to infer anything more.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Uninhibited empowerment under false pretense is a dangerous game, he couldn't dare slip back into his concious mind he might have to question himself. That's an obvious over projection because consciously he knows he's wrong. When the projection doesnt void him of the situation he has 2 options project harder or look internally, he chose the former to protect his ego.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 07:50 AM
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I would pay money to listen to little clerk-boy explain his side of the story!

I don't care if the customer would have been wearing a Hillary Clinton shirt and clerk-boy was a rabid Trump supporter...I still would have fired his infantile ass!


NO-BODY gets to act like that in a business environment! PERIOD!!!

And, anyone who defends the behavior of clerk-boy is flat out WRONG!! PERIOD!!



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: dasman888
Nothing having to do with Canabis here... guy was in a "vape" shop, AKA trying to buy "nicotine juice" for his wife.


Nicotine is some bad medicine.

That looked like one of the weed shops here in Cali.
I misunderstood. Sorry



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

We seem to agree strongly on some things but disagree strongly on others.

A question:


Some have tried to make a connection to the bakery owner in Colorado refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding or the print shop refusing to create artwork for a gay wedding. Those were owners refusing, not clerks.


Doesn't this simply mean that the only people who are actually "free" to actually live their life to their beliefs are rich business owners (i.e. usually the ruling class)? This is the capitalist approach. Note that I appreciate that not all business owners are rich and that private contractors are a thing. However, usually business owners are at least upper middle-class and private contractors cannot be universally relied upon.

There seem to be two main alternatives here:

1. Have the owners and employees both be forced to serve customers against their beliefs. This means that the customer is the most free and has the most choice. However, owners and employees do not have choice to live according to their beliefs without quitting, plus if a customer is denied service they can usually simply go to a different store, whereas changing employer (for employees) is harder, and changing industry (for employers) is even harder. There's also the question of enforcement, some form of regulatory body would have to exist probably from the state, which ideally should be democratic. We could also make distinctions about whether discriminating against someone because of who they are (race, gender, sexuality, gender identity) versus what they believe (political ideology, religion) or what they are wearing is acceptable under law.

2. Both capitalism and the state are unjust power structures that oppress. All transactions and decision making should be between the two people in the store at that specific time. This takes the owners out of the equation, they aren't even the ones doing the work in this case, and in this world there wouldn't even be owners exploiting labour. This is a different implementation of socialism. Of course, at this point in time I think this would yield chaos and there's a question of how we would get there in the first place.

All three are imperfect.

One system which could complement some of these approaches, would be a way to report and boycott Capitalists who refuse service for any reason. This could give additional choice to customers who wish to avoid supporting those who oppress others. This would make one hell of an Android App, but I suppose that's what Zomato and reviews on Google (sort-of) do. This should be done more I think.

I think mainly people should be brought up and raised to respect other people, even if it means sacrifices here and there. I advocate avoiding teaching our adolescents any oppressive belief systems (noting that I cannot enforce this, because I strongly think that children/adolescents are not the property of either the parents, the state, nor me, nor god, they belong to themselves and we owe that to them), but it could be a good idea to teach them about the pitfalls of every approach and the so called paradox of tolerance. In practice I think the only possible solution in our society is mix of capitalism and state regulation, which ends up leading us right back to where we started. Capitalists be warned however that if they oppress, people will vote, people will boycott, and I think that's a beautiful thing.

So I have every right in the world to call out the bakery owner in Colorado for refusing to make the gay wedding cake as well as the print-shop refusing to create artwork for a gay wedding. They're disgusting, views like theirs actually lead to subjugation of LGBT in other countries for who they actually are and not what they believe and I hope everyone knows about them. That is freedom of speech and I want to know about that so I know where to spend my money. I do not however, think that getting the state to interfere is the same argument. I actually am mostly happy with my country's current laws which make discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity and intersex status illegal, although some exemptions to these laws such as the ability to expel gay students from religious schools are simply despicable.

I would appreciate to hear your thoughts on this subject if at all possible.
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posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
Ladies and gentleman. This IS mental illness at work.





posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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Knobheads come in all shapes and sizes and political persuasions.
Neither left or right have a monopoly on stupidity.....this guy got sacked, he deserved it.

I'm sure there's plenty of good ol' country boys who've refused to serve god damn pinko commie bastards in the past....but I guess that's ok?



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Total put-on for youtube clicks.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn



I'm sure there's plenty of good ol' country boys who've refused to serve god damn pinko commie bastards in the past....but I guess that's ok?


Depends on where you live. In "Deliverance" country it is probably still o.k.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: C0bzz


We seem to agree strongly on some things but disagree strongly on others.

Yes, we do. That simply means we are both human.

Well, sort of... redneck is a sub-species, I think... but close enough...



A question:

I suppose one could look at things that way. It's the old perversion of the "Golden Rule"... he who has the gold makes the rules.

But I prefer to look at it as a choice one makes for themselves. I can work for someone else. It's easier and less stressful. I have less responsibility and life just seems a lot easier that way. I can have a nice house with a white picket fence, two cars, and 1.5 kids, and I can retire in my old age on a pension and look at my gold watch. Or I can goof off, enjoy life with a carefree attitude, never think about tomorrow, live in a rented apartment, drive an older car, and father a couple of brats by single mothers, and that means I will retire in poverty on a fixed income. Or, I can start my own business, risk my personal name and finances, work 16-hour days, deal with people who don't want to work, live in a big house, drive new sports cars, and retire in relative luxury. It's my choice. I make it every day, not just by what I choose consciously while thinking about it, but by my everyday choices throughout life.

I am free to make that choice is the point.

When I was driving a truck, it was common for drivers to switch companies frequently. I made some pretty nice coin back then, and whenever it was time to switch jobs, I always took a few weeks off between them. I didn't have to; I could have started the next workday had I wanted. But I made a choice: I wanted time with my family more than I wanted the extra money. Others I knew at the time would have taken the money. Neither choice was right or wrong... they were both right for the individual making them.

That's the whole point of freedom: one can do as they wish with their time. They can sell it on an ongoing, secure basis (employment), on a free-lance basis (contracting), invest it into a future (business), or just enjoy it (time off). Slaves do not have that freedom with their time, and that is what makes them slaves. A slave must do what their owner wants done, when their owner wants it done, how their owner wants it done. They cannot quit, cannot change jobs, cannot start their own business; they're slaves.

Now, if someone who owns a business and has chosen to invest their time for future benefit is forced to perform a service they do not wish to perform, that is removal of their right to their own time. That is slavery. A business can choose who they do and do not serve, although it is rather foolhardy to refuse to serve very many people; that would make for a very bad investment. I actually know of people who run small businesses out of their homes out of boredom, however, and do not need the income... they simply enjoy doing what they do and they do it very well. Is it fair for them to not have control over who they do business with? Shall their time be required of them to serve a master?

An employee is not forced to work. They can quit at any time. There may be consequences, but that is just how life is. There are consequences for bad business decisions. There are consequences for everything in life. It sounds like you are wanting those consequences to go away... but that has never happened throughout history.

Hopefully that answered your question.

TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

That's news to me.

Did I mention I don't live very far from where they filmed "Deliverance"?


TheRedneck



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

There are days I believe I live in the heart of it.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Employee has no right to refuse serivce.

He should get slapped for screaming like that.
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posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
He got fired.

twitter.com...

Deservedly so.
What a jackass.



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
He got fired.

twitter.com...


How?

Allaroundyou assures us that the employee was in the right

Surely he knows more than the owner of the business



posted on Dec, 29 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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A place named Xhale City - there's your problem.

It also may have something to do with the majority of humans are screwed up. Go out into the world and interact. It's an eye opener.




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