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originally posted by: PaladinRoden
a reply to: scraedtosleep
So you agree that the left vs. right paradigm is retarded. Or you just triggered that leftest also look stupid and finding the same behavior on the right makes it feel justified? So what is your stance? You support Hillary/Bernie/Communist/Socialist? Or you a free thinking individual who see's past this BS?
Obviously I don't think your vision is how society works (we do not live in a meritocracy), nor is it how it should work (nobody should discriminate, and the ability to oppress shouldn't be given to the rich). I think that leads to a rigid class structure but ultimately a system which is probably stable (except for when pure selfishness destroys our planet), so it's really not freedom in the first place.
Where do you stand on free trade?
I don't think neoliberalism or classical liberalism works...
originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Wookiep
I see two things wrong here.
First is this individual not adhering to the employee that has every right to refuse service.
So to put this bluntly the dude making and recording the video is in the wrong.
originally posted by: gallop
I mean, I'm sure there is no written policy that a police officer cannot just mug someone, there is no "Under no circumstance is a police officer to mug a member of the public." yet, somehow we don't need one... Yet.
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I think one can rationally support someone like the bakers, as long as they only refuse service in situations that would require them to "participate" in something that goes against their beliefs.
originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
The STORE didn't refuse the sale. The employee did. And he got fired. Employees aren't the ones who decides who gets to refuse service based on their emotions. Its not the whole refuse service law etc. This has already been discussed at length.
If it was the store owner you'd have quite the valid point.
That said, if I ever tried refusing service because of a shirt, I would have lost my job immediately and if a server approached me with that as a “problem”, I’d put a new server on the table and have a discussion with the complaining employee on if their skin is thick enough to work with the general public.