originally posted by: MisterSpock
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
It's like "falling" into deeper levels of subconscious.
I've had "loops" of being suffocated and held down, only to "wake up" and be continually subjected to it for several "layers" of awakening.
People in the room, suffocation, physical assaults, "hearing intrusions" etc.... layered, when I finally come out, its surreal.
At the time it's almost "life altering", a day later I find it fascinating and inconsequential. I think all the mysteries in the universe pale in
comparison to the human consciousness.
Still pretty freaky though.
WE need to compare notes. You explain my experiences to a T. Layers of waking is what I tried to explain with each "episode" where I would wake in
bed, for another round, never having awakened - it repeated up to maybe 15x until the final REAL awakening.
I also have this where the room finally flips 90 degrees on it's side, Gravity is pulling me to the wall to my right, vision is off by 90 degrees, and
I have to walk on the walls, not the floor (buy vision is even more wack) - and there is someone outside the bedroom and I'm trying to get to the door
to close it. It's impossible the first 4-5 attempts until I realize I have to walk on the wall, don't fall into the open closet (because that is
down, and once down, you can't go back "up".. it's a literal hellscape).
I'd like to get all the members here that experience this and have them write down common things that happen to them and compare notes, like an
application process we all can review.
I've also had the strangulation, sitting on chest, old hag, dark nebulous "cloud" in top right corner of room (even when a bright blue LED lights the
corner, this cloud absorbs ALL light into total darkness that swirls/moves/etc - and I've seen it after waking from my sleep paralysis for up to 15
mins afterwards - f'in spooky!)
I'll have to suggest anyone how this happens to, the next time you wake up, turn a light on and put a towel/cloth/blanket over it to dim it, then go
back to sleep. I have NEVER once had this experience when the light is on. Maybe little kids know something we don't (supposedly we forget things we
knew as "universal truths" as toddlers b/c parents lie to use, shame us for our fears, etc - that is why young kids NEED a night light!). I had
this happening 3-5x a week for about 4 months and when I finally started sleeping with a light, it stopped that night and never returned for ~4 years.
I think that has something to do with it. I only use a 40w incandescent bulb (don't use CFL or LEDs!!! you need REAL light!) with lots of shading.
Another thing I've never told anyone. I have a super fast LED strobe flashlight and at night when I set it on max speed (18 flashes per second), I
can see things in the room, spirits, people, my walls are covered in writing (COMPLETELY covered, like hexes or possibly positive "blessings" and I
can only see these with an LED strobe, NOTHING else. It is a cool-white LED, I've tried other color LED's and it doesn't show up even using the same
flash light. Tried to tell friends and family to come see it but they looked at me like they wanted to have me committed but I've done it over 100+
times and the writings are always the same as far as I can tell.
I also while lying down form 2008-2013/4 I would get this feeling of being poked (like by a finger) repeatedly in the same spot, kind of like a muscle
twitch, but so much more localized (like middle of quad only 1cm^2 felt poked, where if it was muscular, much of the quad would be effected). I would
get this for hours on end while trying to sleep, in 5-30 places all over body. Sometimes it would be a full "hand grabbing/squeezing" feeling on
wrist/ankle, not hard but plenty to make sure I knew it was happening and it would repeat 10-100+ times in 20 mins. I'd get the pokes all over body,
lower legs, feet, neck, chest, arms, u name it and at times there would be 4-20 locations hapeneing at once.
When that would happen I would use my strobe and the writing would ALWAYS be there on the walls (usually in odd languages, ancient
looking/foreign/alien at least). Another way to see these things is using the LED (again cool white seems best color - I have a 3w LED in my
flashlight) and I get the same effect by blinking as fast as I can (6-10x a second) and I can see the writing on the wall and sometimes outlines of
semi-transparent people around my bed touching me (95% women, of the younger type) - the strobe + blinking can give an even better result.
Finally I've covered or removed all mirrors in bedroom. I would see red eyes staring back through it when strobing the light or blinking w/ LED light
on - it looked like a dragon's face or maybe the devil of some kind. This was the scariest of all. Problem is that no pictures capture this and I
never tried taking video as I didn't have a good video camera at the time. Might try that again.
We should set up an ATS research group where we can share techniques and maybe equipment to try to document what is going on. I have GREAT access to
professional AV equipment at super low prices (like give-away prices), Audio recording software, LOTS of very expensive lab electronics (makes these
paranormal investigators equipment look like dollar store items), FLIR, EM field detection, IR video capture equipment (all at HD or UHD- 4K).
There are THOUSANDS of other people who go through this and I know they would pay to find out what is going on. Most have given up on "sleep
paralysis" explanation. I say we find these people, get a group, raise funds, get some good equipment (from my inexpensive sources for professional
equipment) and make some real documentation.
another note, analogue video and audio might be the best for capturing this stuff, BY FAR, as digital is SO easiy to manipulate if these "entities"
can control electromagnetic fields and electronics. I've done my research into this and I think there is a lot that can be revealed if there is
support for it to be done.
Please don't think I'm a crack pot. I grew up semi-religious until about 6-7yrs old until hateful 'believers' pushed me out, then followed science
from there. Came back to "religion and supernatural at about 25 when I had seen 100's of things science had total BS explanations for - only
supernatural could have explained these things. My years from 24-36 have some of the wildest experiences you can imagine that science could never
explain with a straight face, yet I've never been turned away from the faith communities when explaining these things, which is actually VERY