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Manhunt underway for gunman who killed California officer during late-night traffic stop

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posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:37 PM
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California is a sanctuary state.

The blood of the cop is on every damned Californian politicians hands.




posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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An illegal also murdered my friend over a pack of cigarettes a few years ago. This guy really shouldn't have been in the country because he had just been arrested for burglary weeks before murdering my friend.

The judge in the immigration case thought it was a good idea he is free while pending deportation and he shot my friend in the face weeks later.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: TheShadow21

I think your missing the point, so after all the drone strikes and death and destruction, you imagine there would be a lack of drugs for any significant time period? LoL

You better hope your wrong because what happens when America ""really"" wakes up?

My guess is none of the above would ever happen but if it did there would simply be a tremendous run on Bath salts and Spice.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: chr0naut

But ‘statistically’ it’s maori and Pacific Islanders who commit the VAAAAAAST majority of crime in New Zealand. Surely importing MASS numbers of eastern asians and white Europeans would drastically reduce the nz crime rate.

Oh that’s right “statistics are manipulated”.


Actually, as far as incarceration statistics go, 50% of all incarcerated identify as Maori, despite them being a minority. Also there are more Maori women incarcerated than men.

There are possibly cultural conflicts at the root of the statistics (which aren't "manipulated" as far as I can tell) which have given rise to criminal gangs, which, to an extent, have become proxy for the tribal groups that once had prominence.

It is hoped that by reestablishing Maori language, culture, tribal and familial connections that the gangs will become less relevant, true Maori culture will blossom and crime will reduce.

The thing was, during the rise to prominence of these gangs, the isolationist principles of McCarthyism had political dominance and true community, inclusive of all races, was marginalized. This is precisely the situation occurring in the US and has had hold there far longer than in NZ.


They’re incarcerated because they’re criminals. They commit vastly more crime than any other denomination.

It would be good to see them become equal with everyone else though. 15% of the population should only be responsible for 15% of the crime rate.

But as for ILLEGAL immigrants, they should account for ZERO percent because nobody should be ILLEGALLY entering ANY country.

Fill out the form. Go through the process. Like EVERYONE else has to. In EVERY country on Earth.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: chr0naut
Have you considered that the drug lords who aren't already living stateside will fly over the wall in their private 'planes, or travel around it in their yachts? ... and they'll offer lifts to their henchmen, too.


Several thoughts there.
1. The "Drug Lords" are businessmen. The guys running the cartels actually do fear the US legal system because that system can take something from them which they truly love: their money. The mules, not so much... you're talking about people with nothing to lose.
2. Most of the violent illegals in the US aren't allied with the cartels. They are small time thugs the cartels, themselves, have driven out of Mexico and into the US.
3. Ever hear of the Aerostat program or the Coast Guard? Nothing flies or sails into the USA without an eye in the sky seeing it... not as easy when dealing with people crossing the same land masses as other similarly sized animals under the cover of darkness. The Dept of HLS miss the land based night crossers because they have chased shadows that proved to be coyotes, deer, cows, etc too many times. The wall ends that confusion entirely because livestock and large wildlife don't climb 40 foot high walls with electrified concertina wire atop them.



Drug Lords in the US - a Google search

Narco-submarine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drones become latest tool drug cartels use to smuggle drugs into U.S.

New Times Investigation: Drug Traffickers Are Buying Up Planes in South Florida

Drug cartels using new 'go-fast' boats that are almost INVISIBLE to radar on Central American smuggling missions

... and what ATS thread would be complete without:

Allegations of CIA drug trafficking From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wall ain't gonna do nuthin'.




posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

"They’re incarcerated because they’re criminals. They commit vastly more crime than any other denomination."

Are there actually proven statistics to reflect such or is that simply something Trump or his ilk came away with?



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Breakthestreak

"They’re incarcerated because they’re criminals. They commit vastly more crime than any other denomination."

Are there actually proven statistics to reflect such or is that simply something Trump or his ilk came away with?


That comment was referring to New Zealand Maori in New Zealand

See why I replied to his comment to begin with.

And yes, thats a proven statistic. Maori commit vastly more crime than any other denomination in New Zealand. It’s undisputed.
edit on 27 12 2018 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: chr0naut
Have you considered that the drug lords who aren't already living stateside will fly over the wall in their private 'planes, or travel around it in their yachts? ... and they'll offer lifts to their henchmen, too.


Several thoughts there.
1. The "Drug Lords" are businessmen. The guys running the cartels actually do fear the US legal system because that system can take something from them which they truly love: their money. The mules, not so much... you're talking about people with nothing to lose.
2. Most of the violent illegals in the US aren't allied with the cartels. They are small time thugs the cartels, themselves, have driven out of Mexico and into the US.
3. Ever hear of the Aerostat program or the Coast Guard? Nothing flies or sails into the USA without an eye in the sky seeing it... not as easy when dealing with people crossing the same land masses as other similarly sized animals under the cover of darkness. The Dept of HLS miss the land based night crossers because they have chased shadows that proved to be coyotes, deer, cows, etc too many times. The wall ends that confusion entirely because livestock and large wildlife don't climb 40 foot high walls with electrified concertina wire atop them.



Drug Lords in the US - a Google search

Narco-submarine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drones become latest tool drug cartels use to smuggle drugs into U.S.

New Times Investigation: Drug Traffickers Are Buying Up Planes in South Florida

Drug cartels using new 'go-fast' boats that are almost INVISIBLE to radar on Central American smuggling missions

... and what ATS thread would be complete without:

Allegations of CIA drug trafficking From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wall ain't gonna do nuthin'.



Nuthin except stop illegals from sneaking across open land borders in the dark of night.

Right?

Oh that’s right, we don’t want that to be stopped.
edit on 27 12 2018 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

We will see. When Congress buckles... which I predict will happen sometime around mid Feb. OR when POTUS decides to use an Executive Order to end the stalemate, construction will begin. Once the Wall is completed, if illegal crime doesn't drop in the US, you can strut around and cluck about how right you were. If, however, the crimes committed by illegals drops, as all logic dictates will happen, I'll serve you your words baked into a pie with some crow.


Something to look forward to, ya?



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
California is a sanctuary state.

The blood of the cop is on every damned Californian politicians hands.



Damn right! Also, a drunk driving illegal alien killed a family of 3, outside San Francisco recently.

When one of them, or the drugs smuggled in, is responsible for the injury or death of Pelosi, or Waters, or Feinstein's relatives, they might...MIGHT start to think rationally about this growing problem for the U.S. and citizens.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

Sorry, my bad.

So proven statistic in Maori, New Zealand, and not the U.S.A.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Correct

We drifted for a little bit there
edit on 27 12 2018 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tensetek

Illegally illegal!

Doesn't a double negative equate to a positive?

But lets just ignore all the other criminals, this one's an illegal criminal!

... oh, wait, ...


Lol
Wannabe aussies are the best.
Slow kiwi news day?
Playing second fiddle to Rhode island finally gotten to you?
Mocking news about cop killers is definately your color.
The fact that no one cares about your immigration laws got you down?
Surely there will be more lord of the rings films th o employ your people?


I am an Aussie, not a wannabe. I moved here because it has a higher standard of living (equal first in the world with Iceland).

And it wasn't just news about a cop killer, it was propaganda because there have been 107 other cops killed in the line of duty this year and most of them go by fairly anonymously.

It is just that this one is alleged to be done by an illegal entrant into the US, the implication in the minds of news readers being that the majority of crimes are perpetrated by illegal entrants to the US, which is entirely untrue.

Look at the number of people in this thread alone who keep repeating the idea that the immigrants will become criminals.

So the kiwis provide better welfsre?
Nice
That brings a lot into focus.
The criminal murders a cop and you are worried about propaganda.
Politics over life for you?
I guess if one migrated for welfare it would be.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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A Mexican migrant is NOT an ‘illegal’
Somebody who ‘sneaks’ across the border IS an ‘illegal’

ILLEGAL migrants are more likely to commit crimes in the country they have snuck into because, they’re criminals already.

If they were normally law-abiding, they would have migrated through proper channels, instead of ‘sneaking’ across the border

Trump is PRO immigration
Trump is anti ILLEGAL immigration
Republicans are PRO immigration
Republicans are anti ILLEGAL immigration

SO ARE DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS

Why is it that people do not want migrants to migrate legally? Why is it they want people to be allowed enter a country without anybody’s knowledge? Without any background check? Without any passport? Without following any immigration procedures?



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Unfortunately in this day of age

A criminal murdering a cop is no more news than a traffic pile up though.

Possibly local News i suppose.

The ""propaganda"" lies in the fact that the perpetrator was an illegal.

You must see this serves a cause?



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: chr0naut
Have you considered that the drug lords who aren't already living stateside will fly over the wall in their private 'planes, or travel around it in their yachts? ... and they'll offer lifts to their henchmen, too.


Several thoughts there.
1. The "Drug Lords" are businessmen. The guys running the cartels actually do fear the US legal system because that system can take something from them which they truly love: their money. The mules, not so much... you're talking about people with nothing to lose.
2. Most of the violent illegals in the US aren't allied with the cartels. They are small time thugs the cartels, themselves, have driven out of Mexico and into the US.
3. Ever hear of the Aerostat program or the Coast Guard? Nothing flies or sails into the USA without an eye in the sky seeing it... not as easy when dealing with people crossing the same land masses as other similarly sized animals under the cover of darkness. The Dept of HLS miss the land based night crossers because they have chased shadows that proved to be coyotes, deer, cows, etc too many times. The wall ends that confusion entirely because livestock and large wildlife don't climb 40 foot high walls with electrified concertina wire atop them.



Drug Lords in the US - a Google search

Narco-submarine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drones become latest tool drug cartels use to smuggle drugs into U.S.

New Times Investigation: Drug Traffickers Are Buying Up Planes in South Florida

Drug cartels using new 'go-fast' boats that are almost INVISIBLE to radar on Central American smuggling missions

... and what ATS thread would be complete without:

Allegations of CIA drug trafficking From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wall ain't gonna do nuthin'.



Nuthin except stop illegals from sneaking across open land borders in the dark of night.

Right?

Oh that’s right, we don’t want that to be stopped.


No, stop the criminals. Absolutely.

Stop branding innocents as criminals, also absolutely.

Because you have law granting asylum, which can only be requested from US soil, some hopefuls cross the border and surrender to the guards just so they can request asylum.

They are being compliant with the law.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: tensetek

Illegally illegal!

Doesn't a double negative equate to a positive?

But lets just ignore all the other criminals, this one's an illegal criminal!

... oh, wait, ...


Lol
Wannabe aussies are the best.
Slow kiwi news day?
Playing second fiddle to Rhode island finally gotten to you?
Mocking news about cop killers is definately your color.
The fact that no one cares about your immigration laws got you down?
Surely there will be more lord of the rings films th o employ your people?


I am an Aussie, not a wannabe. I moved here because it has a higher standard of living (equal first in the world with Iceland).

And it wasn't just news about a cop killer, it was propaganda because there have been 107 other cops killed in the line of duty this year and most of them go by fairly anonymously.

It is just that this one is alleged to be done by an illegal entrant into the US, the implication in the minds of news readers being that the majority of crimes are perpetrated by illegal entrants to the US, which is entirely untrue.

Look at the number of people in this thread alone who keep repeating the idea that the immigrants will become criminals.


Nobody is worried about the ‘immigrants’ becoming criminals
People are worried about ILLEGAL immigrants committing crimes

You do understand that ILLEGAL immigrants are NOT ‘immigrants’ , right? Not even remotely related topics.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: chr0naut
Have you considered that the drug lords who aren't already living stateside will fly over the wall in their private 'planes, or travel around it in their yachts? ... and they'll offer lifts to their henchmen, too.


Several thoughts there.
1. The "Drug Lords" are businessmen. The guys running the cartels actually do fear the US legal system because that system can take something from them which they truly love: their money. The mules, not so much... you're talking about people with nothing to lose.
2. Most of the violent illegals in the US aren't allied with the cartels. They are small time thugs the cartels, themselves, have driven out of Mexico and into the US.
3. Ever hear of the Aerostat program or the Coast Guard? Nothing flies or sails into the USA without an eye in the sky seeing it... not as easy when dealing with people crossing the same land masses as other similarly sized animals under the cover of darkness. The Dept of HLS miss the land based night crossers because they have chased shadows that proved to be coyotes, deer, cows, etc too many times. The wall ends that confusion entirely because livestock and large wildlife don't climb 40 foot high walls with electrified concertina wire atop them.



Drug Lords in the US - a Google search

Narco-submarine From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Drones become latest tool drug cartels use to smuggle drugs into U.S.

New Times Investigation: Drug Traffickers Are Buying Up Planes in South Florida

Drug cartels using new 'go-fast' boats that are almost INVISIBLE to radar on Central American smuggling missions

... and what ATS thread would be complete without:

Allegations of CIA drug trafficking From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wall ain't gonna do nuthin'.



Nuthin except stop illegals from sneaking across open land borders in the dark of night.

Right?

Oh that’s right, we don’t want that to be stopped.


No, stop the criminals. Absolutely.

Stop branding innocents as criminals, also absolutely.

Because you have law granting asylum, which can only be requested from US soil, some hopefuls cross the border and surrender to the guards just so they can request asylum.

They are being compliant with the law.


Do it at the border entry point. Apply for asylum at the border entry point.

The wall will still allow that to happen.

Follow the process WITHOUT sneaking across the border under cover of darkness



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: shooterbrody

Unfortunately in this day of age

A criminal murdering a cop is no more news than a traffic pile up though.

Possibly local News i suppose.

The ""propaganda"" lies in the fact that the perpetrator was an illegal.

You must see this serves a cause?






I disagree.

A cop killer at large legal or illegal is IMPORTANT news. A person to give wide berth to as they have no regard for law.

Your opinion of this being propaganda is irrelevant as it is a basic matter of public safety.
Tho if the illegal hadn't been allowed entry the cops family would still have the opportunity for a spy holiday.







 
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