It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

American political analyst: Something amazing is happening in Russia

page: 2
10
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 10:46 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

The rise of nationalism in response to income humiliation. There's a surprise. I never saw that coming!




posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 10:50 AM
link   

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: RussianTroll

The rise of nationalism in response to income humiliation. There's a surprise. I never saw that coming!


You never knew real Russians and were not in Russia. For Russians, the main thing is not material well-being, but a sense of justice and harmony with God.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 10:55 AM
link   

originally posted by: RussianTroll
When Germany reunited, nobody asked the East Germans, it was just taken by a totalitarian decision without a referendum and annexed. Under international law, this is illegal.
What, we will divide Germany?)))


Sorry, no. GDR's economy had collapsed. The East German PDS was just thrashed in the elections in 89-90. The CDU formed a coalition government on a platform of rapid reunification. The Volkskammer voted for several measures including Accession declaration and Unification treaty.

Did the Ukrainian Rada vote to merge with Russia and I missed it? Last I heard the SSR/Rada in Ukraine voted for succession from the Soviet Union in the 90's around the same time the GDR voted itself out of existence.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 10:59 AM
link   

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: pteridine

Russia is not an Eastern European country. Rather - West Asian, according to your graduation. In fact, Russia is a separate civilization, the Third Rome. Few can understand this.

Putin, in my opinion, sympathizes with Trump, humanly and Christianly. Because Hillary can only sympathize with aliens from Nibiru))) But sympathy is one thing, and politics and national interses are another. If Trump were free and independent in his decisions, then fine, we would honestly have done our business. But now .... alas ((((


That was bad phrasing of the sentence on my part. Of course, Russia is a western Asian nation.

Trump and Putin will do business anyway, each with their own constraints. It could have already occurred in Syria as a result of pragmatism that you mentioned earlier. US withdraws troops. Russia keeps its bases, unmolested, and keeps the Syrian army and Iranians from attacking Israel and introducing another variable. The Saudis will help with rebuilding after Assad regains control, or so they say.

Maybe a US - Russia - Saudi pragmatic agreement? The world may never know.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:04 AM
link   
a reply to: RadioRobert

Не путайте мягкое с теплым. экономика - это одно, а международное право - совсем другое. Хотите жить в мире с соседями - следуйте международному праву. Иначе - война. И всем плевать, какая у кого там экономика.

In Ukraine, there was an anti-constitutional Nazi coup. They themselves divided their country. not Russia. West divided it. And now other rules come into law - the right of force. And if you lose in a game that you are playing, there is nothing to cry and cry for some values. which you yourself trampled. They wanted the rights to be strong - get it and do not cry.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:08 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

So no actual response?

If your handlers are watching: This is the worst troll yet. At least the other ones weren't so blatant with their non-sequiturs and illogical comments.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:10 AM
link   

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: pteridine

Russia is not an Eastern European country. Rather - West Asian, according to your graduation. In fact, Russia is a separate civilization, the Third Rome. Few can understand this.

Putin, in my opinion, sympathizes with Trump, humanly and Christianly. Because Hillary can only sympathize with aliens from Nibiru))) But sympathy is one thing, and politics and national interses are another. If Trump were free and independent in his decisions, then fine, we would honestly have done our business. But now .... alas ((((


That was bad phrasing of the sentence on my part. Of course, Russia is a western Asian nation.

Trump and Putin will do business anyway, each with their own constraints. It could have already occurred in Syria as a result of pragmatism that you mentioned earlier. US withdraws troops. Russia keeps its bases, unmolested, and keeps the Syrian army and Iranians from attacking Israel and introducing another variable. The Saudis will help with rebuilding after Assad regains control, or so they say.

Maybe a US - Russia - Saudi pragmatic agreement? The world may never know.


Israel is of interest to Russia only for three reasons:
1. In Israel, 25% of the population are our former fellow citizens, including the heroes of World War 2.
2. Israel has the greatest Christian shrines
3. Chabad Lyubavich is strongly influenced in Russia

If it were not for these factors, then Stalin would never have created this state)))



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:13 AM
link   

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: RussianTroll

So no actual response?

If your handlers are watching: This is the worst troll yet. At least the other ones weren't so blatant with their non-sequiturs and illogical comments.


I do not see for myself a worthy interlocutor or rival. I see a stupid troll (((



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:13 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Then put the mirror down.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:17 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Did Yanukovych vote/act for Ukrainian Unification with Russia and I missed that, too?

I'm not washing the West's hands in the mess, but let us not pretend it is other than it is either.






In fact, Russia is a separate civilization, the Third Rome

Well, the Russian GDP is almost as large as Italy's, so you're almost there, tovarich

edit on 27-12-2018 by RadioRobert because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:18 AM
link   

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: RussianTroll

Then put the mirror down.


In Russian they say "good riddance." I would have spoken more figuratively, but I'm afraid that forum moderators will misunderstand me)))



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:25 AM
link   

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: RussianTroll

Did Yanukovych vote/act for Ukrainian Unification with Russia and I missed that, too?

I'm not washing the West's hands in the mess, but let us not pretend it is other than it is either.


Whatever Yanukovych was, he is the last legitimate president of Ukraine. After it was chaos and lawlessness.
Yanukovych signed an agreement with the opposition, which was also signed by German ambassadors. France and other countries. It was an official international document. It took 2 hours and the West sent a detachment of murderers to eliminate Yanukovych. He ran for a long time in his country, from Kharkov to the Crimea, there were many attempts on his life. So far, Russia has not agreed to accept him and protect his life. And it is right. Otherwise, be prepared for the fact that the legitimate leaders of your states will one day run around the world and save their lives in front of gangs.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:38 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

So neither Yanukovych (previously, currently, or otherwise), nor the current de facto government in the Ukraine, asked for a Russian annexation? Great, that's all we need to know to know your comparison to how the GDR moved west was bunkum.




posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:43 AM
link   

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: RussianTroll

So neither Yanukovych (previously, currently, or otherwise), nor the current de facto government in the Ukraine, asked for a Russian annexation? Great, that's all we need to know to know your comparison to how the GDR moved west was bunkum.



Do not speculate for Yanukovych, better go to the Russian Rostov-on-Don and ask his opinion. Anex was in the case of East Germany’s totalitarian takeover by West Germany. In the case of Crimea, the procedure of reunification was legal under international law.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:47 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Again the Volkskammer (East German Parliament) voted for Accession and Unification. This is neither "totalitarian takeover" nor comparable to the current situation/invasion in the Ukraine.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:49 AM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

Considering not even Russia's supposed ally China publicly recognized the annexation it must not be that legal.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 11:50 AM
link   

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: RussianTroll

Again the Volkskammer (East German Parliament) voted for Accession and Unification. This is neither "totalitarian takeover" nor comparable to the current situation/invasion in the Ukraine.


And in the Crimea the parliament also voted. In addition, a national referendum was held with a score of 97% for reunification with Russia. There was no referendum in Germany.

The highest manifestation of democracy is the referendum. Are you against democracy? Are you a totalitarian?

What about the Russian army in the Crimea. Under an agreement with Ukraine on the Russian Black Sea Fleet, there may be 25,000 Russian troops in the Crimea. Russia has never exceeded this limit. In 2014, it was even less - 18 thousand. 80% of the Ukrainian army. the fleet and special security services voluntarily went over to the side of Russia and took the oath of Russia. It is a fact. End of discussion, or give back Alaska)))
edit on 27-12-2018 by RussianTroll because: correct



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 12:02 PM
link   

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: RussianTroll

Considering not even Russia's supposed ally China publicly recognized the annexation it must not be that legal.

Do you want to speculate for China? Lol
Free the captured head of Huawei)))



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 12:04 PM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

We already went over this. Russia's Human Rights Council, which is part of the Kremlin, admitted that the actual referendum only had a 30% turnout. Of that 30%, at most, 50% voted in favor of annexation.



posted on Dec, 27 2018 @ 12:05 PM
link   
a reply to: RussianTroll

I'm not speculating on anything. There were only a handful of countries that officially acknowledged the annexation. These include places like North Korea and Iran. China was not included in the list.




top topics



 
10
<< 1    3  4 >>

log in

join