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originally posted by: username74
a reply to: UpIsNowDown
wtf s with all the rhetoric?
originally posted by: username74
source?
originally posted by: username74
chavez/south america is not evidence for 30s germany.
originally posted by: djz3ro
You're getting yourself mixed up fella.
originally posted by: djz3ro
Yes Hitler did impliment Socialist policies because he was the leader of the National Socialists. The clue is in the name it was a Nationalist (ergo Right Wing) take on Socialism (Left Wing) Politics. Study some history, you might learn something. I've known this since the mid 90's.
originally posted by: djz3ro
As for guns. You think it's left wing to invade a country and allow their citizens to keep their guns?
Interesting...
originally posted by: C0bzz
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Speaking of triangles, the Communists and Social Democrats had red triangles sewn onto their prison uniforms because they were forced into these camps (sort of debunks this thread, huh?).
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originally posted by: C0bzz
I am a LGBT person and social democrat, let's really talk about who feels threatened here.
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Same-sex couples are unable to marry or adopt, and households headed by such couples are ineligible for the same legal protections available to opposite-sex couples.
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originally posted by: toysforadults
Their ideas were a mixed bag of left and right. Economically they were socialist and fascist however socially they were extremely conservative.
The Nazis being left or right does nothing to prove either the modern left of America is good or bad
Hitler and the Nazis promoted a socially conservative view concerning many aspects of life, supported by harsh discipline and a militaristic point of view.[73] Conservative opinions about sexuality amid the Nazis led to extreme homophobia which resulted in the systematic persecution of homosexuals.[74] Hitler and his paladins also controlled what constituted acceptable artistic expression in Nazi Germany, abolishing what they considered to be "degenerate art".[75] The Nazis strongly discouraged, and in some cases outright rejected the following behaviors: the use of cosmetics, premarital sex, prostitution, pornography, sexual vices, smoking, and excessive drinking.[76] In many ways, there was a distinct Anti-intellectualism present within Nazi philosophy.[77] Hearkening back to a simpler time, Hitler and the Nazis attempted to vindicate the glorious past as the key to a more promising future.[78]
originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
deny history all you want in order to continue to propagate that Nazi's are socialist therefor all socialist are Nazi's
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After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288
What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.
“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941
To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State.
Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler,4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 36-37. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 published by Chatto & Windus in 1971
I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.
As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Who is denying history?
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
PROVE any of these policies, or beliefs are right wing... You CAN'T. Which is why left-wingers like yourself keep on denying facts and instead you all claim "the right are all the nazis..."
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
It is entertaining seeing you, and others like you, trying to deny the fact that "government" had/has more in common with the government, than with government.